[#388484] ruby-doc.org has been updated — James Britt <james.britt@...>

Ruby-doc.org has been updated.

22 messages 2011/10/03

[#388492] Operator Overloading — Thescholar Thescholar <thescholar@...>

Let's suppose I have a class like this one and then I create two

28 messages 2011/10/04
[#388515] Re: Operator Overloading — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 01:11 AM, Thescholar Thescholar wrote:

[#388518] Re: Operator Overloading — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2011/10/04

Darryl Pierce wrote in post #1024950:

[#388519] Re: Operator Overloading — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 10:03 AM, Brian Candler wrote:

[#388520] Re: Operator Overloading — Adam Prescott <adam@...> 2011/10/04

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388523] Local vs method vs instance (was: Operator Overloading) — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 11:11 AM, Adam Prescott wrote:

[#388526] Re: Local vs method vs instance (was: Operator Overloading) — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2011/10/04

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce@gmail.com> wrote=

[#388558] question about method — "Joseph S." <musician_joe777@...>

AC = 14

12 messages 2011/10/04

[#388595] Read thru Csv file and store it in variables — ideal one <idealone5@...>

HI All,

9 messages 2011/10/05

[#388601] How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...>

Hiya folks.

21 messages 2011/10/05
[#388603] Re: How to output an instance's type — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...> 2011/10/05

By type you want the variables class ?

[#388610] Re: How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/05

Hi Kassym. Thanks for the post.

[#388612] Re: How to output an instance's type — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...> 2011/10/05

Viaduct Productions wrote in post #1025201:

[#388636] Re: How to output an instance's type — luke gruber <luke.gru@...> 2011/10/06

>How do I output the type of a variable?

[#388644] Re: How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/06

Hi Luke. Thanks for the reply.=20

[#388650] Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Intransition <transfire@...>

I have a commercial Radiant-based website that I manage for a small-

18 messages 2011/10/06
[#388653] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/10/06

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388660] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Dan Nachbar <dan@...> 2011/10/06

On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

[#388662] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/06

What do people consider "cheap"? You want scalability? Support? =20

[#388728] How to make Saas application? Is it possible? — Асет Орымбаев <asetpochta@...>

SGkgZXZlcnlib2R5IQoKSSB3YW50IHRvIGtub3csIGlzIGl0IHBvc3NpYmxlIHRvIGNyZWF0ZSBT

8 messages 2011/10/07

[#388812] require -- looking in rubygems, now "." — "charles a." <charles.agriesti@...>

irb

11 messages 2011/10/09

[#388855] why does `a + f b` not parse? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

ruby-1.9.2-p0 > 2 + sqrt 5

18 messages 2011/10/11
[#388857] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Wayne Brissette <waynefb@...> 2011/10/11

[#388858] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Dave Aronson <rubytalk2dave@...> 2011/10/11

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 06:32, Wayne Brissette <waynefb@earthlink.net> wrote:

[#388861] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/10/11

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dave Aronson

[#388862] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/11

Phillip Gawlowski wrote in post #1026042:

[#388864] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2011/10/11

Yes, I think we all know that; the question is, why does 2 + sqrt(5)

[#388881] gem directory not find — Sam Porwal <pawan.porwal@...>

Hi All,

11 messages 2011/10/11

[#388945] What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2011/10/14
[#388950] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/14

...probably not the *best* way, but this works:

[#388952] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2011/10/14

You can use this syntax, too. "args" becomes an array of all arguments given.

[#388954] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 15:29, Bartosz Dziewo=C5=84ski <matma.rex@gmail.com=

[#388958] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@...> 2011/10/14

You could do it as a wrapper:

[#388961] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 15:51, Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388962] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@...> 2011/10/14

You said you didn't want to manually do it, this lets the interpreter

[#388970] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — luke gruber <luke.gru@...> 2011/10/14

Hmm, if you really don't want to use the splat *args, you could create a

[#388972] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Jens Wille <jens.wille@...> 2011/10/14

luke gruber [2011-10-14 17:15]:

[#388947] Beginning — "Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor" <zombiegenerator@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2011/10/14

[#389025] writing a poem backwards or in reverse order — Teresa Nguyen <s-unguyen2@...>

i would like to write a poem using nano and through ruby I would like to

18 messages 2011/10/16
[#389036] Re: writing a poem backwards or in reverse order — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2011/10/16

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Teresa Nguyen

[#389026] 'gem install' help please — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

Hi.

18 messages 2011/10/16

[#389037] Ruby and threading — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>

Hello,

32 messages 2011/10/16
[#389038] Re: Ruby and threading — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/10/16

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389195] Re: Ruby and threading — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/10/19

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389340] security thesis advice — Jorge Bo <jorgebo10@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2011/10/22

[#389465] Modify only a .rb file, but not other .rb files, while still extending core classes? — Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>

Given is a small .rb file.

8 messages 2011/10/26

[#389553] "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Faith Tarcha <faith@...>

Hello guys, I have two objects that consist of arrays and I am suppose

29 messages 2011/10/29
[#389587] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/31

hi Faith,

[#389598] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Dave Aronson <rubytalk2dave@...> 2011/10/31

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 22:23, jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#389789] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — steve ross <cwdinfo@...> 2011/11/06

Sorry to be late to the party on this one, but a regex seems a bit of a =

[#389791] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2011/11/06

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:59 PM, steve ross <cwdinfo@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389795] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Peter Camilleri <pdc.cse@...> 2011/11/06

Indeed. My understanding is that the usage of a/an depends on the

[#389859] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Gonçalo C. Justino <goncalo.justino@...> 2011/11/08

> Indeed. My understanding is that the usage of a/an depends on the

[#389590] Vim Ruby Config — "Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor" <zombiegenerator@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2011/10/31

Re: Ruby and threading

From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2011-10-27 14:00:48 UTC
List: ruby-talk #389496
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter
<headius@headius.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:

>> * Other times I ran it under JRuby, it detected the corrupt data with
>> 'ConcurrencyError: Detected invalid array contents due to unsynchronized
>> modifications with concurrent users'
>
> We do our best to detect this for Array, and at some point we'll try
> to do it for Hash (Hash will currently raise errors from Java like
> ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException...still rescuable, but not as nice). It
> would be cool if Ruby incorporated some explicitly thread-safe
> collections by default, but there are gems that provide such things
> right now.
>
> FWIW, it's almost impossible to have threadsafe data structures that
> perform as well as non-threadsafe data structures, which is why we've
> always opted to keep Array and Hash the way they are. Hopefully people
> are starting to learn that the alternatives aren't that bad, like
> using external threadsafe libs or simply mutexing around all accesses.

Actually it is not possible to provide thread safe collections out of
the box which handle all use cases.  I have frequently seen people use
Collections.synchronizedMap() in Java and not realize that their code
is not thread safe.  There are two typical scenarios in Java where you
need to manually define the scope of the mutex by externally
synchronizing:

1. When you invoke more than one method on the object which need to
act on the same state.
2. Iterating a collection (Collections.synchronizedMap() does not
prevent ConcurrentModificationException).

(Note: 2 does not apply in Ruby when iterating with #each and
relatives but 1 also is valid in Ruby land)

People need to understand that thread safety is not a property of a
class (or type) which you can easily gain by just synchronizing all
methods (it works in some cases though) but of the code which accesses
shared state.  So from an educational point of view the effect of
providing objects with all methods synchronized may not be ideal
because it may convey a false sense of safety.

Having said that it would probably be a good idea to add something
like this to the standard library which can be used for any object

require 'monitor'

class SynchronizingWrapper < BasicObject
  def initialize(o)
    @lock = ::Monitor.new
    @obj = o
  end

  def synchronize(&b)
    @lock.synchronize(&b)
  end

  def method_missing(*a, &b)
    @lock.synchronize do
      @obj.send(*a, &b)
    end
  end
end

Wrapping a collection with this gets you pretty far because for
example Hash already has methods #fetch and the default proc so the
usual idiom of if h.contains_key?(x); y=h[x];else;h[x]=y=create;end is
not needed often.

Kind regards

robert

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