[#388484] ruby-doc.org has been updated — James Britt <james.britt@...>

Ruby-doc.org has been updated.

22 messages 2011/10/03

[#388492] Operator Overloading — Thescholar Thescholar <thescholar@...>

Let's suppose I have a class like this one and then I create two

28 messages 2011/10/04
[#388515] Re: Operator Overloading — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 01:11 AM, Thescholar Thescholar wrote:

[#388518] Re: Operator Overloading — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2011/10/04

Darryl Pierce wrote in post #1024950:

[#388519] Re: Operator Overloading — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 10:03 AM, Brian Candler wrote:

[#388520] Re: Operator Overloading — Adam Prescott <adam@...> 2011/10/04

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388523] Local vs method vs instance (was: Operator Overloading) — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/10/04

On 10/04/2011 11:11 AM, Adam Prescott wrote:

[#388526] Re: Local vs method vs instance (was: Operator Overloading) — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2011/10/04

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce@gmail.com> wrote=

[#388558] question about method — "Joseph S." <musician_joe777@...>

AC = 14

12 messages 2011/10/04

[#388595] Read thru Csv file and store it in variables — ideal one <idealone5@...>

HI All,

9 messages 2011/10/05

[#388601] How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...>

Hiya folks.

21 messages 2011/10/05
[#388603] Re: How to output an instance's type — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...> 2011/10/05

By type you want the variables class ?

[#388610] Re: How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/05

Hi Kassym. Thanks for the post.

[#388612] Re: How to output an instance's type — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...> 2011/10/05

Viaduct Productions wrote in post #1025201:

[#388636] Re: How to output an instance's type — luke gruber <luke.gru@...> 2011/10/06

>How do I output the type of a variable?

[#388644] Re: How to output an instance's type — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/06

Hi Luke. Thanks for the reply.=20

[#388650] Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Intransition <transfire@...>

I have a commercial Radiant-based website that I manage for a small-

18 messages 2011/10/06
[#388653] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/10/06

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388660] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Dan Nachbar <dan@...> 2011/10/06

On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Phillip Gawlowski wrote:

[#388662] Re: Cheapest way to host low-traffic small-footprint Rails app? — Viaduct Productions <lists@...> 2011/10/06

What do people consider "cheap"? You want scalability? Support? =20

[#388728] How to make Saas application? Is it possible? — Асет Орымбаев <asetpochta@...>

SGkgZXZlcnlib2R5IQoKSSB3YW50IHRvIGtub3csIGlzIGl0IHBvc3NpYmxlIHRvIGNyZWF0ZSBT

8 messages 2011/10/07

[#388812] require -- looking in rubygems, now "." — "charles a." <charles.agriesti@...>

irb

11 messages 2011/10/09

[#388855] why does `a + f b` not parse? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

ruby-1.9.2-p0 > 2 + sqrt 5

18 messages 2011/10/11
[#388857] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Wayne Brissette <waynefb@...> 2011/10/11

[#388858] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Dave Aronson <rubytalk2dave@...> 2011/10/11

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 06:32, Wayne Brissette <waynefb@earthlink.net> wrote:

[#388861] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/10/11

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dave Aronson

[#388862] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/11

Phillip Gawlowski wrote in post #1026042:

[#388864] Re: why does `a + f b` not parse? — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2011/10/11

Yes, I think we all know that; the question is, why does 2 + sqrt(5)

[#388881] gem directory not find — Sam Porwal <pawan.porwal@...>

Hi All,

11 messages 2011/10/11

[#388945] What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2011/10/14
[#388950] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/14

...probably not the *best* way, but this works:

[#388952] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2011/10/14

You can use this syntax, too. "args" becomes an array of all arguments given.

[#388954] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 15:29, Bartosz Dziewo=C5=84ski <matma.rex@gmail.com=

[#388958] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@...> 2011/10/14

You could do it as a wrapper:

[#388961] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 15:51, Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@gmail.com> wrote:

[#388962] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Chris Hulan <chris.hulan@...> 2011/10/14

You said you didn't want to manually do it, this lets the interpreter

[#388970] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — luke gruber <luke.gru@...> 2011/10/14

Hmm, if you really don't want to use the splat *args, you could create a

[#388972] Re: What’s the best way of checking if an argument has been given or not? — Jens Wille <jens.wille@...> 2011/10/14

luke gruber [2011-10-14 17:15]:

[#388947] Beginning — "Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor" <zombiegenerator@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2011/10/14

[#389025] writing a poem backwards or in reverse order — Teresa Nguyen <s-unguyen2@...>

i would like to write a poem using nano and through ruby I would like to

18 messages 2011/10/16
[#389036] Re: writing a poem backwards or in reverse order — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2011/10/16

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Teresa Nguyen

[#389026] 'gem install' help please — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

Hi.

18 messages 2011/10/16

[#389037] Ruby and threading — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>

Hello,

32 messages 2011/10/16
[#389038] Re: Ruby and threading — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/10/16

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389195] Re: Ruby and threading — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/10/19

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389340] security thesis advice — Jorge Bo <jorgebo10@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2011/10/22

[#389465] Modify only a .rb file, but not other .rb files, while still extending core classes? — Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>

Given is a small .rb file.

8 messages 2011/10/26

[#389553] "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Faith Tarcha <faith@...>

Hello guys, I have two objects that consist of arrays and I am suppose

29 messages 2011/10/29
[#389587] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — jake kaiden <jakekaiden@...> 2011/10/31

hi Faith,

[#389598] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Dave Aronson <rubytalk2dave@...> 2011/10/31

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 22:23, jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#389789] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — steve ross <cwdinfo@...> 2011/11/06

Sorry to be late to the party on this one, but a regex seems a bit of a =

[#389791] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2011/11/06

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:59 PM, steve ross <cwdinfo@gmail.com> wrote:

[#389795] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Peter Camilleri <pdc.cse@...> 2011/11/06

Indeed. My understanding is that the usage of a/an depends on the

[#389859] Re: "A" and "an" articles in front of words — Gonçalo C. Justino <goncalo.justino@...> 2011/11/08

> Indeed. My understanding is that the usage of a/an depends on the

[#389590] Vim Ruby Config — "Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor" <zombiegenerator@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2011/10/31

Re: Get all classes from a list of files

From: Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...>
Date: 2011-10-01 20:37:29 UTC
List: ruby-talk #388451
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jeroen van Ingen <jeroeningen@gmail.com>wrote:

> @Adam
> I'm not talking about inheritance. I just want to get access to all
> ruby-classes inside a list of files in a dir and it subdirs.
>
>
This is seriously the wrong approach. It hides what's actually happening, is
very difficult to do correctly, and it can easily cause lots of unrelated
code to break. I will again recommend having the class just tell the
instantiator that it exists and conforms to the expectations of the
instantiator. You could do it the way I showed or the way Adam showed.

There might be other solutions too, this is just how I handled it in the
past. But grepping files to construct a string you can evaluate is
definitely the wrong thing to do:


## Problem 1: Due to its indiscriminate instantiation, your code will be
fragile and rigid ##

What happens if you have some code that should go in that directory, but the
class shouldn't be instantiated by your code? How will you distinguish?

What if you reopen a class, then it will get instantiated twice! You'll have
to go hack on the parsing code to track how many times its instantiated each
class `class MyClass; end; class MyClass; end`

What happens if you need to open a class that it shouldn't instantiate?
`class String; end` That's fine to do, but all of a sudden you can't do it
because your other code is going to find it.

What if your class needs to use a subclass in order to do its job `class
Outer; class Inner; end; end` Whoops, your code didn't instantiate Outer
like it was supposed to, it instantiated Inner instead, which it was not
supposed to, and there is no way to fix it other than go hack on or add
special rules to the instantiator, which might in turn break its behaviour
with the other files it reads.

What happens if you need to put the code somewhere else, but it should be
instantiated by your instantiator?

What happens when your coworker is reading the code going "now how the fuck
did this class become part of that list?" (in Python terms: explicit is
better than implicit)


## Problem 2: You need to write a Ruby parser and traverse ASTs to do this
right ##

What happens if you need to define a class like this `MyClass = Class.new`?
Will your parser be smart enough to see it?

What about like this `Object.const_set 'MyClass', Class.new`

What about like this `my_class = Class.new` you won't even be able to access
that class, how will you instantiate it?

What about like this `class << obj; end`

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