[#365153] synchronize a "mocked" clock in a distributed system — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I've been banging on a problem for a few days now and don't feel any closer to solving it. I'm hoping some of the big brains on the ruby ML can shed some light. Following are a few paragraphs with a brief system overview before I state the problem. I apologize in advance for this question being only tangentially related to Ruby the language. :)

13 messages 2010/07/01
[#365164] Re: [Q] synchronize a "mocked" clock in a distributed system — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/07/01

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@mac.com> wrote:

[#365214] RubyGoLightly Progress Report — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...>

I seem to have been missing in action for the best part of six months so =

14 messages 2010/07/02

[#365320] Why am I not getting the expected output? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I have the following code: http://pastie.org/1032525, but always getting

11 messages 2010/07/06

[#365351] best way to make .rb into an executable for linux? — David Ainley <wrinkliez@...>

I have a pretty basic .rb script that I would like to turn into an

11 messages 2010/07/06

[#365374] Hashes don't allow preceding commas by design? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

This is the output from irb that shows ruby 1.9.1 doesn't like hash =

12 messages 2010/07/07

[#365413] What is meant by those lines of code in this script? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I came across the following script from "Why's poignant guide to Ruby".

9 messages 2010/07/07

[#365504] FIRST PROGRAMMING PROBLEM Array — Francisco Martinez <calabazag@...>

Hi...I'm trying to solve a very simple exercise but this is one of my

12 messages 2010/07/09

[#365513] what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Jan Lelis <prog@...>

Hi Ruby mailing list,

24 messages 2010/07/09
[#365541] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/10

On 7/9/10, Jan Lelis <prog@janlelis.de> wrote:

[#365548] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/07/11

On 10.07.2010 17:54, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#365551] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/11

On 7/11/10, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#365555] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/07/11

On 11.07.2010 13:32, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#365574] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/11

On 7/11/10, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#365570] How to pass a hash as a param to a method called through eval? — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com>

Hi Folks - I've got a data-driven app I'm building, and I'd like to be

14 messages 2010/07/11

[#365615] Try Ruby is back online. — andrew mcelroy <sophrinix@...>

Greetings,

10 messages 2010/07/12

[#365721] Ruby garabage collector — Abder-Rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

In the "Why's poignant guide to Ruby" book, it states the following:

22 messages 2010/07/13

[#365752] What does this do? — Abder-Rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I have this portion of code from "Why's poignant guide to Ruby" book.

12 messages 2010/07/13

[#365828] click a javascript dialog window in Firefox — Mario Ruiz <tcblues@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2010/07/14

[#365844] Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...>

I have a 2D Array. I have written a method

22 messages 2010/07/14
[#365850] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — w_a_x_man <w_a_x_man@...> 2010/07/14

On Jul 14, 3:56=A0pm, Shawn W_ <sha...@internode.on.net> wrote:

[#365853] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/15

Thx. Don't quite understand that code. I tried plugging in some nils but

[#365869] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/15

A better way to describe it.

[#365871] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/07/15

I was going to suggest using the 'case' statement instead of all those =

[#365938] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/16

Okay, just found out that...

[#365944] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2010/07/16

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Shawn W_ <shawnw@internode.on.net> wrote:

[#365847] Ruby best practice for "always on" app/service? — yermej <yermej@...>

I'm building an app that will essentially be a web service client. It

10 messages 2010/07/14

[#365988] client-side Ruby on iPad/iPhone? — Jeff Pritchard <jp@...>

I've seen jRuby and IronRuby, and really want to use them since i really

12 messages 2010/07/17

[#366015] ruby abstraction — "James O'Brien" <jeob32@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2010/07/18

[#366053] LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...>

I'm trying to install Ruby on a 64 bit Windows 7 machine following this

46 messages 2010/07/19
[#366063] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/19

[#366082] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/19

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366085] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/07/19

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Rich Leblanc <rl001@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#366086] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#366135] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/20

[#366140] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366147] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/20

Rich Leblanc wrote:

[#366153] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366179] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/21

Rich Leblanc wrote:

[#366115] Count occurences of vars in array — Vitaliy Yanchuk <fuksito@...>

Hello, everyone.

18 messages 2010/07/20
[#366116] Re: Count occurences of vars in array — Jean-Julien Fleck <jeanjulien.fleck@...> 2010/07/20

Hello,

[#366120] Re: Count occurences of vars in array — Vitaliy Yanchuk <fuksito@...> 2010/07/20

Jean-Julien Fleck, thanks.

[#366152] Can't get ruby 1.9 to work after install on OSX — Musdev Musdev <devrubygem@...>

Hello

12 messages 2010/07/20

[#366196] how to make "gem install rmagick" work? — Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@...>

I wanted to install rmagick on Win7 but it can't install:

10 messages 2010/07/21

[#366226] Text to Binary — Umm Whyshouldisay <kipthemudkip@...>

Hi! I'm new to the forums. I'm also a bit new to Ruby. I already know

13 messages 2010/07/21

[#366254] finding last line in a file — Ted Flethuseo <flethuseo@...>

Hi everyone,

15 messages 2010/07/22
[#366256] Re: finding last line in a file — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2010/07/22

Take a look at the doc for File.readline.

[#366257] Re: finding last line in a file — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2010/07/22

(2010/07/22 14:08), Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#366319] Typical Ruby (non-rails) project structure. — Carl Jenkins <carljenkins@...>

What is/are the best-practice(s) for a Ruby project structure?

18 messages 2010/07/22

[#366418] Ruby books designed especially for beginngers — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

Hey experts, i need your advice.

12 messages 2010/07/24

[#366611] Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...>

Is there a way to tell from within a program which executable is being

23 messages 2010/07/27
[#366614] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — "Joseph E. Savard" <joseph.savard@...> 2010/07/27

[#366617] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Joseph E. Savard

[#366620] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366622] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Joel VanderWerf

[#366624] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366625] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Joel VanderWerf

[#366626] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366629] tool to compare DB schema against DDL file — Fabian Marin <fmg134s@...>

First of all any feedback from you guys will be of tremendous help.

14 messages 2010/07/28

[#366727] my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...>

Dear all,

19 messages 2010/07/29
[#366729] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/29

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366766] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/29

Dear Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n and all,

[#366774] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366784] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/30

[#366786] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366792] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/30

Dear Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n,

[#366755] .any?{} Behavior — John Sikora <john.sikora@...>

I find the following behavior interesting (so interesting that I

28 messages 2010/07/29
[#366797] Re: [].all?{} and [].any?{} Behavior — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/07/30

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John Sikora <john.sikora@xtera.com> wrote:

[#366809] Re: [].all?{} and [].any?{} Behavior — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#366837] Mocking a method with a block — Fernando Guillen <fguillen.mail@...>

Hi people,

12 messages 2010/07/31

Re: [].all?{} and [].any?{} Behavior

From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...>
Date: 2010-07-31 16:22:18 UTC
List: ruby-talk #366839
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Robert Klemme
<shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> For your own usage as long as it doesn't mess up some other code you
>> are using, feel free.
>
> I disagree: IMHO it is a bad idea to change such fundamental behavior
> if only for own code. =A0This opens the door widely for all sorts of
> bugs and issues. =A0For example, you get used to #all? doing also the
> emptyness check and get confused when reading other code which of
> course relies on the regular behavior. =A0Or you forget the "require"
> for the file that changes semantics of #all? and #any? and receive in
> turn subtly bugs which might be hard to track down. =A0Even worse, you
> use library code that in turn uses #all? or #any? without you knowing
> it and this code suddenly breaks.

Whether or not it's a bad idea, and I tend to agree that it is.  I
said what I did for at least two reasons:

1) I tend not to be puritanical, just as I wouldn't restrict what
anyone wanted to do in the privacy of their own homes unless it was
harmful to others, I think you should be able to write whatever code
you want to under the same philosophy, whether or not it's harmful to
you.

2) Since one of the most useful ways to learn anything in such a way
that you remember and internalize it is to make a mistake and realize
the consequences.
>
>> module Enumerable
>> =A0def non_vacuous_all?(&b)
>> =A0 =A0!empty? && all?(&b)
>> =A0end
>> end
>>
>> [3].all? {|element| element =3D=3D 3 } =A0# =3D> true
>> [3].all? {|element| element !=3D 3 } =A0# =3D> false
>>
>> [].all? {|element| element =3D=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> true
>> [].all? {|element| element !=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> true
>>
>> [3].non_vacuous_all? {|element| element =3D=3D 3 } =A0# =3D> true
>> [3].non_vacuous_all? {|element| element !=3D 3 } =A0# =3D> false
>>
>> [].non_vacuous_all? {|element| element =3D=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> false
>> [].non_vacuous_all? {|element| element !=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> false
>>
>> [].any? {|element| element =3D=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> false
>> [].any? {|element| element !=3D 3 } =A0 # =3D> false
>>
>> There may be a better name than non_vacuous_all? but I can't think of on=
e.
>
> I'd rather stick with two method calls because it makes crystall clear
> what's happening. =A0Also, you may first want to check for emptyness and
> if else branch based on that knowledge (or the other way round). =A0In
> other words: often you may want to separate both checks

Here I completely disagree.  Extracting commonly used code to a well
named method is an essential part of writing and maintaining code.

for example, I see nothing wrong with the sum method which active
support adds to Enumerable

  # Calculates a sum from the elements. Examples:
  #
  #  payments.sum { |p| p.price * p.tax_rate }
  #  payments.sum(&:price)
  #
  # The latter is a shortcut for:
  #
  #  payments.inject { |sum, p| sum + p.price }
  #
  # It can also calculate the sum without the use of a block.
  #
  #  [5, 15, 10].sum # =3D> 30
  #  ["foo", "bar"].sum # =3D> "foobar"
  #  [[1, 2], [3, 1, 5]].sum =3D> [1, 2, 3, 1, 5]
  #
  # The default sum of an empty list is zero. You can override this default=
:
  #
  #  [].sum(Payment.new(0)) { |i| i.amount } # =3D> Payment.new(0)
  #
  def sum(identity =3D 0, &block)
    if block_given?
      map(&block).sum(identity)
    else
      inject { |sum, element| sum + element } || identity
    end
  end

Following your argument, this is bad because you might want to use
inject and + separately.

But having such methods doesn't prevent you in the least from using
inject, +, empty?, any? or any other method used to implement a
slightly more abstract extracted method separately.  It does help to
keep your code DRY and to make it more understandable overall since
you don't have to re-understand the effect of the separate invocations
each time you encounter them, as long as you are careful and name the
abstraction in an 'intention revealing' way.

And doing this also enables changing the implementation of the
abstraction without holistic changes to the code.  Yes I know about de
Morgan's rules (I have a CS degree granted by a 1970's era Electrical
Engineering department). Placing the implementation in an abstraction
allows you to do the math proofs/unit testing and refactoring to meet
particular non-functional requirements in one place, which is a good
thing.

I recently was working on a refactoring a large Rails application
taken over from another development shop, which had several nasty bugs
on just this issue of all? returning true for an empty collection.  It
turns out that there are definitely cases where you want to test that
a collection has at least 1 element and that all of the elements have
some property.  Having said that perhaps a better name for the method
might be

   at_least_one_and_all?

That might be a tad long, but I'd rather have a longer but more
intention revealing name, and let one of the several editors I use
deal with keeping my keystroke count down.

--=20
Rick DeNatale

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