[#365153] synchronize a "mocked" clock in a distributed system — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I've been banging on a problem for a few days now and don't feel any closer to solving it. I'm hoping some of the big brains on the ruby ML can shed some light. Following are a few paragraphs with a brief system overview before I state the problem. I apologize in advance for this question being only tangentially related to Ruby the language. :)

13 messages 2010/07/01
[#365164] Re: [Q] synchronize a "mocked" clock in a distributed system — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/07/01

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@mac.com> wrote:

[#365214] RubyGoLightly Progress Report — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...>

I seem to have been missing in action for the best part of six months so =

14 messages 2010/07/02

[#365320] Why am I not getting the expected output? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I have the following code: http://pastie.org/1032525, but always getting

11 messages 2010/07/06

[#365351] best way to make .rb into an executable for linux? — David Ainley <wrinkliez@...>

I have a pretty basic .rb script that I would like to turn into an

11 messages 2010/07/06

[#365374] Hashes don't allow preceding commas by design? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

This is the output from irb that shows ruby 1.9.1 doesn't like hash =

12 messages 2010/07/07

[#365413] What is meant by those lines of code in this script? — Abder-rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I came across the following script from "Why's poignant guide to Ruby".

9 messages 2010/07/07

[#365504] FIRST PROGRAMMING PROBLEM Array — Francisco Martinez <calabazag@...>

Hi...I'm trying to solve a very simple exercise but this is one of my

12 messages 2010/07/09

[#365513] what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Jan Lelis <prog@...>

Hi Ruby mailing list,

24 messages 2010/07/09
[#365541] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/10

On 7/9/10, Jan Lelis <prog@janlelis.de> wrote:

[#365548] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/07/11

On 10.07.2010 17:54, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#365551] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/11

On 7/11/10, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#365555] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/07/11

On 11.07.2010 13:32, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#365574] Re: what about allowing to specify, which end belongs to which start? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/07/11

On 7/11/10, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#365570] How to pass a hash as a param to a method called through eval? — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com>

Hi Folks - I've got a data-driven app I'm building, and I'd like to be

14 messages 2010/07/11

[#365615] Try Ruby is back online. — andrew mcelroy <sophrinix@...>

Greetings,

10 messages 2010/07/12

[#365721] Ruby garabage collector — Abder-Rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

In the "Why's poignant guide to Ruby" book, it states the following:

22 messages 2010/07/13

[#365752] What does this do? — Abder-Rahman Ali <abder.rahman.ali@...>

I have this portion of code from "Why's poignant guide to Ruby" book.

12 messages 2010/07/13

[#365828] click a javascript dialog window in Firefox — Mario Ruiz <tcblues@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2010/07/14

[#365844] Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...>

I have a 2D Array. I have written a method

22 messages 2010/07/14
[#365850] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — w_a_x_man <w_a_x_man@...> 2010/07/14

On Jul 14, 3:56=A0pm, Shawn W_ <sha...@internode.on.net> wrote:

[#365853] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/15

Thx. Don't quite understand that code. I tried plugging in some nils but

[#365869] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/15

A better way to describe it.

[#365871] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/07/15

I was going to suggest using the 'case' statement instead of all those =

[#365938] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Shawn W_ <shawnw@...> 2010/07/16

Okay, just found out that...

[#365944] Re: Return nothing when looking outside the bounds of 2D array? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2010/07/16

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Shawn W_ <shawnw@internode.on.net> wrote:

[#365847] Ruby best practice for "always on" app/service? — yermej <yermej@...>

I'm building an app that will essentially be a web service client. It

10 messages 2010/07/14

[#365988] client-side Ruby on iPad/iPhone? — Jeff Pritchard <jp@...>

I've seen jRuby and IronRuby, and really want to use them since i really

12 messages 2010/07/17

[#366015] ruby abstraction — "James O'Brien" <jeob32@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2010/07/18

[#366053] LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...>

I'm trying to install Ruby on a 64 bit Windows 7 machine following this

46 messages 2010/07/19
[#366063] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/19

[#366082] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/19

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366085] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/07/19

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Rich Leblanc <rl001@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#366086] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#366135] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/20

[#366140] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366147] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/07/20

Rich Leblanc wrote:

[#366153] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/20

Roger Pack wrote:

[#366179] Re: LoadError: no such file to load -- tk — Rich Leblanc <rl001@...> 2010/07/21

Rich Leblanc wrote:

[#366115] Count occurences of vars in array — Vitaliy Yanchuk <fuksito@...>

Hello, everyone.

18 messages 2010/07/20
[#366116] Re: Count occurences of vars in array — Jean-Julien Fleck <jeanjulien.fleck@...> 2010/07/20

Hello,

[#366120] Re: Count occurences of vars in array — Vitaliy Yanchuk <fuksito@...> 2010/07/20

Jean-Julien Fleck, thanks.

[#366152] Can't get ruby 1.9 to work after install on OSX — Musdev Musdev <devrubygem@...>

Hello

12 messages 2010/07/20

[#366196] how to make "gem install rmagick" work? — Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@...>

I wanted to install rmagick on Win7 but it can't install:

10 messages 2010/07/21

[#366226] Text to Binary — Umm Whyshouldisay <kipthemudkip@...>

Hi! I'm new to the forums. I'm also a bit new to Ruby. I already know

13 messages 2010/07/21

[#366254] finding last line in a file — Ted Flethuseo <flethuseo@...>

Hi everyone,

15 messages 2010/07/22
[#366256] Re: finding last line in a file — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2010/07/22

Take a look at the doc for File.readline.

[#366257] Re: finding last line in a file — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2010/07/22

(2010/07/22 14:08), Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#366319] Typical Ruby (non-rails) project structure. — Carl Jenkins <carljenkins@...>

What is/are the best-practice(s) for a Ruby project structure?

18 messages 2010/07/22

[#366418] Ruby books designed especially for beginngers — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

Hey experts, i need your advice.

12 messages 2010/07/24

[#366611] Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...>

Is there a way to tell from within a program which executable is being

23 messages 2010/07/27
[#366614] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — "Joseph E. Savard" <joseph.savard@...> 2010/07/27

[#366617] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Joseph E. Savard

[#366620] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366622] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Joel VanderWerf

[#366624] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366625] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2010/07/27

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Joel VanderWerf

[#366626] Re: Which Ruby is in use? — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...> 2010/07/27

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#366629] tool to compare DB schema against DDL file — Fabian Marin <fmg134s@...>

First of all any feedback from you guys will be of tremendous help.

14 messages 2010/07/28

[#366727] my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...>

Dear all,

19 messages 2010/07/29
[#366729] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/29

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366766] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/29

Dear Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n and all,

[#366774] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366784] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/30

[#366786] Re: my script just read one line? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@uclouvain.be> wro=

[#366792] Re: my script just read one line? — Junhui Liao <junhui.liao@...> 2010/07/30

Dear Jes炭s Gabriel y Gal叩n,

[#366755] .any?{} Behavior — John Sikora <john.sikora@...>

I find the following behavior interesting (so interesting that I

28 messages 2010/07/29
[#366797] Re: [].all?{} and [].any?{} Behavior — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/07/30

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John Sikora <john.sikora@xtera.com> wrote:

[#366809] Re: [].all?{} and [].any?{} Behavior — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/07/30

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#366837] Mocking a method with a block — Fernando Guillen <fguillen.mail@...>

Hi people,

12 messages 2010/07/31

Re: ruby abstraction

From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2010-07-20 05:25:03 UTC
List: ruby-talk #366093
On 20.07.2010 06:03, David Masover wrote:
> On Sunday, July 18, 2010 02:35:03 am Robert Klemme wrote:
>> On 07/18/2010 06:53 AM, David Masover wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2010 08:21:10 pm James O'Brien wrote:
>>>> as a thought-experiment I
>>>> propose Java without interfaces would be worse
>>>
>>> Probably.
>>
>> You could not have Java without interfaces.  You would at least have to
>> drop static typing and this would be a major change to the language.  I
>> don't think you would still call the result of this operation "Java".
>
> I don't think so. It would be much like Java without Generics -- frustrating
> to work with, but possible. Basically, it kills any sort of polymorphism
> between things which don't share a common ancestor -- so you make more use of
> inheritance in some situations (take Collections, it wouldn't be so bad if we
> had to inherit from AbstractCollection, AbstractList, etc), and aggressively
> abuse modular decomposition (anywhere you have one object that needs to
> pretend to be two types, make two related objects!), and you could make it
> work.

Still, that would not be the Java for me that we have today.  Without 
interface a major feature for structuring code would be gone. 
Expressiveness of the language would be significantly changed.  But you 
are right the language would resemble today's Java pretty much.

> In fact, IIRC, this is how C++ does it -- it's just made much easier due to
> multiple inheritance. I never quite understood why Java allows multiple
> interfaces to be applied to the same object, and even to the same interface,
> but not multiple inheritance.

State.  I guess they were afraid of the way C++ makes inheritance 
complicated because of virtual and non virtual inheritance and the 
consequences for the visibility of state ("diamond problem").  I would 
also add that "interface" is a cleaner concept because it stresses the 
fact that not behavior or state is shared but only the interface. 
Granted, you can achieve similar goals with abstract classes that 
contain only abstract methods but I think it was wise do have interfaces 
in Java.

> I'm not suggesting this would be a good idea, mind you -- but then, I'm also
> not entirely sure either Java or C++ is a good idea.

LOL

Cheers

	robert

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