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[#31927] Re: Problem with Ruby 1.8.6-p110 on DragonFly (was [PATCH] Problem with ruby 1.8.6-p36 (and p39) on Tiger) — Takahiro Kambe <taca@...>

こんばんは。

4 messages 2007/10/02

[#31976] Re: Problem with Ruby 1.8.6-p110 on DragonFly — Takahiro Kambe <taca@...> 2007/10/08

In message <20071003.010525.74739787.taca@back-street.net>

[#31977] Re: Problem with Ruby 1.8.6-p110 on DragonFly (was [PATCH] Problem with ruby 1.8.6-p36 (and p39) on Tiger) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/08

なかだです。

[#31978] Re: Problem with Ruby 1.8.6-p110 on DragonFly — Takahiro Kambe <taca@...> 2007/10/09

In message <20071008211225.C8DDBE042D@mail.bc9.jp>

[#31928] securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

securerandom.rb を 1.8 に追加し、cgi/session.rb に使わせたい

18 messages 2007/10/03

[#31990] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...> 2007/10/09

At Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:49:20 +0900,

[#31992] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/09

In article <86k5pwinco.knu@iDaemons.org>,

[#31993] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/09

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[#31996] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31997] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/09

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[#31998] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32001] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/09

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[#32004] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/10

In article <470BFBC8.9040607@sarion.co.jp>,

[#32012] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/10

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[#32039] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/12

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32067] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/15

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[#32071] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/15

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32005] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/10

In article <470B853C.9050608@sarion.co.jp>,

[#32011] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/10

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[#32019] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/10

In article <470C9094.3020108@sarion.co.jp>,

[#32007] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...> 2007/10/10

At Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:09:21 +0900,

[#32020] Re: securerandom.rb for 1.8 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/10

In article <86hckzip2z.knu@iDaemons.org>,

[#31932] bug on autoload — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...>

永井＠知能．九工大です．

1 message 2007/10/03

[#31934] Do ruby 1.9 require C99 compliant compiler? — KIMURA Koichi <kimura.koichi@...>

木村です。

1 message 2007/10/04

[#31936] Rake添付 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

まつもとゆきひろです

21 messages 2007/10/04

[#31937] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/04

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[#31938] Re: Rake添付 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/04

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31939] Re: Rake添付 — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...> 2007/10/04

Yukihiro Matsumoto さんは書きました:

[#31940] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/04

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[#32008] Re: Rake添付 — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...> 2007/10/10

NAKAMURA, Hiroshi さんは書きました:

[#32014] Re: Rake添付 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...> 2007/10/10

At Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:01 +0900,

[#32015] Re: Rake添付 — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...> 2007/10/10

# デフォルトではrubygem無効派です。

[#32016] Re: Rake添付 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...> 2007/10/10

At Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:57:14 +0900,

[#32017] Re: Rake添付 — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...> 2007/10/10

Akinori MUSHA さんは書きました:

[#32018] Re: Rake添付 — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2007/10/10

[ruby-dev:31973]のような議論の結果、結局何もしなくてもrubygemsは最初から

[#32021] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/11

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[#31942] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/05

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[#31944] Re: Rake添付 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/05

In article <47058CAB.6050305@sarion.co.jp>,

[#31963] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/07

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[#31954] Re: Rake添付 — WATANABE Hirofumi <eban@...> 2007/10/05

わたなべです。

[#31972] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/08

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[#32006] Re: Rake添付 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...> 2007/10/10

At Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:05:17 +0900,

[#32013] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/10

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[#32077] Re: Rake添付 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/16

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[#32078] Re: Rake添付 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/16

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31941] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>

前田です。

20 messages 2007/10/04

[#31943] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/05

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[#31945] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2007/10/05

前田です。

[#31947] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Tietew <tietew+ruby-dev@...> 2007/10/05

[#31955] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/05

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[#31948] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/05

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[#31952] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2007/10/05

前田です。

[#31956] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — GOTOU Yuuzou <gotoyuzo@...> 2007/10/06

In message <47063403.3070402@ruby-lang.org>,

[#31960] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — GOTOU Yuuzou <gotoyuzo@...> 2007/10/07

In message <20071006.101915.596518898.gotoyuzo@sawara.priv.tokyo.netlab.jp>,

[#31968] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2007/10/08

前田です。

[#31974] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — GOTOU Yuuzou <gotoyuzo@...> 2007/10/08

In message <4709852A.1020606@ruby-lang.org>,

[#31975] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2007/10/08

前田です。

[#32009] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...> 2007/10/10

Shugo Maeda さんは書きました:

[#32026] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2007/10/11

akira yamada / やまだあきら wrote:

[#32024] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/11

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[#32025] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2007/10/11

前田です。

[#32029] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — GOTOU Yuuzou <gotoyuzo@...> 2007/10/11

In message <470D9227.9090008@sarion.co.jp>,

[#32032] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/11

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[#32041] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — GOTOU Yuuzou <gotoyuzo@...> 2007/10/12

In message <470E236D.1050105@sarion.co.jp>,

[#32064] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/15

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[#31950] OpenURI charset の即定値の問題 — Martin Duerst <duerst@...>

田中さん、こんにちは。

2 messages 2007/10/05

[#31951] Re: OpenURI charset の即定値の問題 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/05

In article <6.0.0.20.2.20071005200211.09ac61b0@localhost>,

[#31957] home directoryの取得 — Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA <zn@...>

西山和広です。

1 message 2007/10/06

[#31958] math.c typo: define(ERANGE) — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...>

成瀬です。

1 message 2007/10/07

[#31959] pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...>

成瀬です。

6 messages 2007/10/07

[#31961] Re: pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/07

In article <470884D1.9040401@airemix.com>,

[#31962] Re: pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/07

成瀬です。

[#31964] Re: pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/07

In article <47089FF7.4010709@airemix.com>,

[#31965] Re: pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/07

成瀬です。

[#31966] Re: pcc: constant too big for cross-compiler — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/07

成瀬です。

[#31967] openssl can't compile with pcc — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...>

成瀬です。

1 message 2007/10/07

[#31979] openssl test failures on ruby_1_8 — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...>

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

1 message 2007/10/09

[#31980] multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...>

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

24 messages 2007/10/09

[#31981] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31983] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/09

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[#31984] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31986] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/09

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[#31987] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31989] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/09

成瀬です。

[#31994] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#31999] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2007/10/09

永井＠知能．九工大です．

[#32000] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Hidetoshi NAGAI <nagai@...> 2007/10/09

永井＠知能．九工大です．

[#31991] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Tietew <tietew+ruby-dev@...> 2007/10/09

[#31995] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/09

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32003] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/10

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[#32010] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/10

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32042] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/12

In article <20071010091006.1988.USA@garbagecollect.jp>,

[#32043] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/12

成瀬です。

[#32044] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/13

In article <471003CB.7060701@airemix.com>,

[#32045] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/13

成瀬です。

[#32046] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/13

In article <47103C37.5040607@airemix.com>,

[#32047] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/10/13

途中のコメントでごめんなさい。

[#32074] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2007/10/15

成瀬です。

[#32075] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/15

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32082] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/16

In article <471388D1.8010809@airemix.com>,

[#32056] Re: multibyte string/regex literal with escape sequence — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/14

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[#31982] SEGV by permutation — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

以下のようにすると SEGV します。

1 message 2007/10/09

[#31985] SEGV by ary.permutation again — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

以下のようにすると SEGV します。

1 message 2007/10/09

[#31988] [1,2,3].permutation(2).to_a — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

[1,2,3].permutation(2).to_a が [[2, 2], [2, 3]] になります。

1 message 2007/10/09

[#32022] Re: [ruby-list:44085] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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1 message 2007/10/11

[#32028] open-uri used by threads cause uninitialized constant OpenURI::Net — "Ken Date" <itacchi@...>

こんにちは。伊達と申します。

3 messages 2007/10/11

[#32037] Re: open-uri used by threads cause uninitialized constant OpenURI::Net — "(株)ネットフォレスト植田裕之" <ueda@...> 2007/10/12

植田と申します。

[#32048] Re: open-uri used by threads cause uninitialized constant OpenURI::Net — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/13

In article <d88784280710110046j3303d6d4ma39a7869d5dc5f73@mail.gmail.com>,

[#32040] patch for lib/rexml/document.rb@13607 — oshida@...

押田といいます。

1 message 2007/10/12

[#32049] Re: iconv enhancement in Ruby 1.9 — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...>

なかだです。

1 message 2007/10/13

[#32050] printでの$,の挙動 — eklerni <eklerni@...>

eklerniです。

3 messages 2007/10/13

[#32051] Re: printでの$,の挙動 — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/13

なかだです。

[#32052] Re: printでの$,の挙動 — eklerni <eklerni@...> 2007/10/13

eklerniです。

[#32053] Process::Status#to_s — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

現在 Process::Status#to_s は整数な文字列を返します。

2 messages 2007/10/14

[#32058] Re: Process::Status#to_s — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/15

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32054] SEGV on Marshal.load — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

以下のようにすると SEGV になります。

1 message 2007/10/14

[#32059] SEGV by Marshal.load("\004\bu:\006C\004\377\377\377\177a") — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

以下のようにすると SEGV します。

1 message 2007/10/15

[#32060] -1073741825.5.round — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

以下のように、-1073741825.5 を四捨五入すると 1073741822 とず

1 message 2007/10/15

[#32072] 第二引数が文字列のtrace_var — eklerni <eklerni@...>

eklerniです。

1 message 2007/10/15

[#32076] "あいう"[/.].encoding #=> ASCII-8BIT と /hoge/.to_s.encoding — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...>

成瀬です。

1 message 2007/10/15

[#32083] uri/common.rb:188:in `initialize': wrong number of arguments (ArgumentError) — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

test-all がエラーになります。

1 message 2007/10/16

[#32084] 0**-1 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

0**-1 が 0 になることに気がつきました。

1 message 2007/10/16

[#32092] SEGV by def d(a) yield(a) end; d(0,&:x) — eklerni <eklerni@...>

eklerni です。

1 message 2007/10/17

[#32093] [BUG] errno == 0 at IO#pos on DOSISH — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...>

なかだです。

1 message 2007/10/18

[#32094] Regexp.union — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

Regexp.union に

1 message 2007/10/19

[#32113] pattern match with UTF-8 regexp and EUC-JP string. — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>

/./u という UTF-8 な 1文字を表現するパターンに EUC-JP な

2 messages 2007/10/21

[#32130] Re: pattern match with UTF-8 regexp and EUC-JP string. — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/10/23

At 15:25 07/10/21, Tanaka Akira wrote:

[#32133] undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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12 messages 2007/10/23

[#32134] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#32135] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — tadf@... 2007/10/23

どういう状況かよくわかってないのですが、いっそ必ず date 丸ごと読むようにするか、

[#32136] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#32137] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — tadf@... 2007/10/23

> もしかして、単にtime.rbの「require 'parsedate'」を削ればいいだけだったり

[#32138] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/24

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[#32139] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — tadf@... 2007/10/24

> 確かに。で、1.9でparsedate.rbがなくなることを考えると、とりあえずtime.rb

[#32140] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/24

In article <4b1598ce0710231835p1a0b3040kcc89bf0017a60c21@mail.gmail.com>,

[#32157] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — tadf@... 2007/10/25

> えぇと、1.9 の time.rb は require 'date/format' していますが、

[#32159] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/25

In article <4b1598ce0710250229v60d2a468vfb37d0df93bbd98f@mail.gmail.com>,

[#32143] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/24

まつもとゆきひろです

[#32158] Re: undefined method `now' for DateTime:Class (NoMethodError) — tadf@... 2007/10/25

> ちょっと読み取れなかったのですが、time.rbをなくした場合、

[#32141] REXML::Document#write: undefined local variable or method `transitive' — akira yamada / やまだあきら <akira@...>

trunkのREXMLが元だと思うのですけど

1 message 2007/10/24

[#32160] WORDS_BIGENDIAN on Mac OS X — Satoshi Nakagawa <snakagawa@...>

中川といいます。

1 message 2007/10/26

[#32162] alias_method allows illegal identifier name — keh00365@...

はじめまして

4 messages 2007/10/31

[#32163] Re: alias_method allows illegal identifier name — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/31

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[#32164] Re: alias_method allows illegal identifier name — keh00365@... 2007/10/31

>| alias_method で、新しい名前に識別子としては不正な

[#32165] Re: alias_method allows illegal identifier name — "U.Nakamura" <usa@...> 2007/10/31

こんにちは、なかむら(う)です。

[ruby-dev:32024] Re: [ruby-list:44071] Re: Ruby 1.8.6-p111 / 1.8.5-p114 released (Security Fix)

From: "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

Date: 2007-10-11 03:00:27 UTC

List: ruby-dev #32024

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GOTOU Yuuzou wrote:
> ただ、SSLContextのパラメータを外
> 部から設定できないようになっているため、verify_modeを
> VERIFY_PEER固定にし、OpenSSLのデフォルトの証明書ストアを参照
> させるなど他とは異なる対応をしようかと考えています。

OpenSSLのデフォルトの証明書ストアって、（demoCAのほうじゃない）certsのこ
とだよね。現状のext/opensslから取得できたっけ?

あとどうもあれは、opensslのtest用＋openssl開発者の利便性のために存在して
るんじゃないかも、と思ってたんだけど。どの程度ツカエルのかな。

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