[#4076] Ruby/DL — Jamis Buck <jamis_buck@...>

I recently used Ruby/DL to create bindings to the SQLite3 embedded

40 messages 2005/01/03
[#4096] Re: Ruby/DL — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2005/01/04

On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:53:49AM +0900, Jamis Buck wrote:

[#4099] Re: Ruby/DL — ts <decoux@...> 2005/01/04

>>>>> "P" == Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

[#4119] Re: Ruby/DL — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2005/01/05

On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:05:48AM +0900, ts wrote:

[#4120] Re: Ruby/DL — ts <decoux@...> 2005/01/05

>>>>> "P" == Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

[#4125] Re: Ruby/DL — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2005/01/05

On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 01:10:34AM +0900, ts wrote:

[#4116] Test::Unit::Collector::Dir won't work with code that modifies $LOAD_PATH — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

Any test code that depends upon modifications of $: fails when used

10 messages 2005/01/05

[#4146] The face of Unicode support in the future — Charles O Nutter <headius@...>

Hello Rubyists!

47 messages 2005/01/06
[#4152] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/01/07

Hi,

[#4167] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...> 2005/01/09

Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#4175] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/01/10

Hi,

[#4186] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2005/01/11

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:53:48PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#4192] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/01/12

Hi,

[#4269] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Wes Nakamura <wknaka@...>

19 messages 2005/01/18
[#4270] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/01/18

Hi,

[#4275] Re: The face of Unicode support in the future — Wes Nakamura <wknaka@...> 2005/01/19

[#4323] test/unit doesn't rescue a Exception — Tanaka Akira <akr@...17n.org>

test/unit doesn't rescue a Exception in a test method, as follows.

14 messages 2005/01/27
[#8773] Re: test/unit doesn't rescue a Exception — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2006/09/02

In article <87is5jb46q.fsf@serein.a02.aist.go.jp>,

[#8776] Re: test/unit doesn't rescue a Exception — "Nathaniel Talbott" <ntalbott@...> 2006/09/03

On 9/1/06, Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org> wrote:

[#8777] Re: test/unit doesn't rescue a Exception — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2006/09/03

On Sep 2, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

Re: The face of Unicode support in the future

From: Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...>
Date: 2005-01-12 16:35:36 UTC
List: ruby-core #4201
Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:53:48PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
>> The "right" definition of characters differs application to
>> application.  That's the reason I don't add a Character class.  I want
>> to leave it to the user.

This sounds likely to result in duplicated efforts... Do it
pragmatically; I don't think it should be very hard to provide a
default Character class that people can "customize" by subclassing or
method redefinition.

> I don't understand what you mean here.  How is having "abc"[0] return a
> String a better solution than having "abc"[0] return a Character?  Is it
> less restrictive in some way?

I can't quite follow the line of reasoning here, too.

> Anyway, some questions:

I'll try to answer them from my view of a future Character class.

> 1. Will this be true?
>
>   ?a == "a"

No.  However, ?a === "a" should be true.

> It would allow code like this to be forward-compatible:
>
>   line = gets
>   if line[0] == ?A then
>     ...
>   end

This code will work nevertheless, because line[0] is a Character.

> 2. What will the encoding be of the character following the ? mark?  Can
>    I write:
>
>   if line[0] == ?<some utf-8 character> then
>
> or must I use a String instead?

The encoding of the string/char will be the same as the code file.
(See below.)

> 3. Can I compare two strings that have two different encodings?

Yes.  There probably will be need for a "fuzzy" matching, though...

> 4. Will $KCODE change to allow more encodings or will it be going away?

I'd propose to replace $KCODE with something a bit more elegant and
OO, as there will be need for

  - default encoding
  - source encoding (possibly file local)
  - stream encoding (possibly stream local)

A controversial issue: I strongly suggest utf-8 to be taken as the
default file encoding.  IMHO, this will not affect the user of other
encodings, as they need(ed) to specify the exact encoding in any case.

> 5. Can there be user-defined encodings (e.g. if some user wants to
>    provide utf-16)?

IMO, utf-16 should be provided in the core.  User-defined encodings
should be possible too, though.

> 6. Should String#encoding return a String or a Symbol?

How about the class that handles the encoding?


> Paul
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