[#20190] Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Evan Phoenix <evan@...>

Hi everyone,

79 messages 2008/12/01
[#20200] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/02

Hi,

[#20215] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2008/12/02

[#20217] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/12/02

[#20301] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/04

Hi,

[#20316] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/04

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#20317] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/12/04

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 03:25:42AM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#20323] Leave my open classes alone (was Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly) — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/12/04

[#20325] Re: Leave my open classes alone (was Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/04

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#20328] Re: Leave my open classes alone (was Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/04

Hi,

[#20334] Re: Leave my open classes alone (was Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly) — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/04

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#20384] Re: Leave my open classes alone (was Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly) — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2008/12/05

[#20329] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — daz <dooby@...10.karoo.co.uk> 2008/12/04

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#20335] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/04

daz wrote:

[#20341] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/12/04

On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:58:02 +1100, Charles Oliver Nutter

[#20344] Re: Behavior: autoload calls rb_require() directly — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/05

Michael Selig wrote:

[#20214] Proposal: deferred blocks — "Yehuda Katz" <wycats@...>

Several people have played around with solutions that use ParseTree or

11 messages 2008/12/02

[#20235] autoload and concurrency — "Yehuda Katz" <wycats@...>

Merb uses autoload rather extensively. We have lately observed some

31 messages 2008/12/03
[#20236] Re: autoload and concurrency — Jim Deville <jdeville@...> 2008/12/03

This seems like a strong argument in favor of Ruby-core:20225.

[#20240] Re: autoload and concurrency — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/03

Jim Deville wrote:

[#20242] Re: autoload and concurrency — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/03

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#20245] Re: autoload and concurrency — "Yehuda Katz" <wycats@...> 2008/12/03

Also, this just illustrates that it's possible. In the case of Merb, we

[#20247] Re: autoload and concurrency — Tomas Matousek <Tomas.Matousek@...> 2008/12/03

I think it has already been concluded that autoload and require are inheren=

[#20241] [Bug #814] NoMethodError: undefined method `read_nonblock' for #<OpenSSL::SSL::SSLSocket:0x1a64f9a0> — Aaron Patterson <redmine@...>

Bug #814: NoMethodError: undefined method `read_nonblock' for #<OpenSSL::SSL::SSLSocket:0x1a64f9a0>

19 messages 2008/12/03
[#22538] [Bug #814] NoMethodError: undefined method `read_nonblock' for #<OpenSSL::SSL::SSLSocket:0x1a64f9a0> — Tony Arcieri <redmine@...> 2009/02/26

Issue #814 has been updated by Tony Arcieri.

[#20416] [Feature #839] Add code on each line of a backtrace output to the screen — Roger Pack <redmine@...>

Feature #839: Add code on each line of a backtrace output to the screen

12 messages 2008/12/08

[#20483] encoding of symbols — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

If I have a source file like this:

50 messages 2008/12/11
[#20494] Re: encoding of symbols — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/11

Hi,

[#20496] Re: encoding of symbols — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/12

Hi,

[#20522] Re: encoding of symbols — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/13

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#20526] Re: encoding of symbols — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...> 2008/12/13

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:33:13PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#20540] Re: 1.9 character encoding (was: encoding of symbols) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/12/14

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:01:44 +1100, Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com>

[#20545] Re: 1.9 character encoding (was: encoding of symbols) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/12/14

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:57:55 +1100, Michael Selig

[#20562] Re: 1.9 character encoding (was: encoding of symbols) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/15

Hi,

[#20619] Re: 1.9 character encoding (was: encoding of symbols) — danielcavanagh@... 2008/12/17

> You're right. When we have two strings with identical byte sequence

[#20502] [Bug #863] Openssl issues with fresh compile on Ubuntu — Brian Takita <redmine@...>

Bug #863: Openssl issues with fresh compile on Ubuntu

11 messages 2008/12/12

[#20557] [Bug #877] [win32] Ruby Standard Library (maybe smth else): Wrong Encoding in Files, Directories and Environment Variables — "Dmitry A. Ustalov" <redmine@...>

Bug #877: [win32] Ruby Standard Library (maybe smth else): Wrong Encoding in Files, Directories and Environment Variables

14 messages 2008/12/14

[#20564] [Bug #883] Failure: test_handle_special_CROSSREF_no_underscore(TestRDocMarkupToHtmlCrossref) — Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA <redmine@...>

Bug #883: Failure: test_handle_special_CROSSREF_no_underscore(TestRDocMarkupToHtmlCrossref)

9 messages 2008/12/15

[#20576] [Bug #888] zlib 1.2.3 does not work with Rubygems 1.3.1 (in Ruby 1.9.1) on Windows — Chauk-Mean PROUM <redmine@...>

Bug #888: zlib 1.2.3 does not work with Rubygems 1.3.1 (in Ruby 1.9.1) on Windows

14 messages 2008/12/15

[#20578] [Feature #889] erb.rb should use Array and << for eoutvar and not String and concat — Thomas Enebo <redmine@...>

Feature #889: erb.rb should use Array and << for eoutvar and not String and concat

15 messages 2008/12/15

[#20668] [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Charles Nutter <redmine@...>

Feature #905: Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer

60 messages 2008/12/18
[#20671] Re: [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/19

Hi

[#20674] Re: [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/19

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#20697] Re: [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...> 2008/12/19

[#20703] Re: [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/12/19

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#20704] Re: [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/12/19

[#28461] [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — caleb clausen <redmine@...> 2010/03/04

Issue #905 has been updated by caleb clausen.

[#28491] [Feature #905] Add String.new(fixnum) to preallocate large buffer — Kurt Stephens <redmine@...> 2010/03/05

Issue #905 has been updated by Kurt Stephens.

[#20695] [Bug #907] Various system() and backticks problems on Windows — "James M. Lawrence" <redmine@...>

Bug #907: Various system() and backticks problems on Windows

13 messages 2008/12/19

[#20706] [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michael Selig <redmine@...>

Feature #908: Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream

39 messages 2008/12/19
[#21816] [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michael Selig <redmine@...> 2009/02/03

Issue #908 has been updated by Michael Selig.

[#21825] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/04

In article <4988d2fa997f8_8527a9e32018e7@redmine.ruby-lang.org>,

[#21826] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2009/02/04

Hi,

[#22100] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/14

In article <op.uotab6oa9245dp@kool>,

[#22125] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2009/02/15

2009/2/14 Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org>:

[#22146] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/15

In article <a5d587fb0902141711q780f0d24jef9be9b8bbe69b2a@mail.gmail.com>,

[#22182] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2009/02/16

2009/2/15 Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org>:

[#22213] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/18

In article <a5d587fb0902160252u56b50cfdv8e0fd36bb4f0b1b3@mail.gmail.com>,

[#22215] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2009/02/18

2009/2/18 Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org>:

[#22238] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2009/02/18

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:21:21 +1100, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>

[#22253] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/19

In article <op.upklh9q19245dp@kool>,

[#22281] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2009/02/20

At 19:00 09/02/19, Tanaka Akira wrote:

[#22332] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2009/02/22

In article <6.0.0.20.2.20090220134502.0823ee98@localhost>,

[#22338] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2009/02/22

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:00:41 +1100, Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org> wrote:

[#22356] Re: [Feature #908] Should be an easy way of reading N characters from am I/O stream — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2009/02/23

2009/2/22 Michael Selig <michael.selig@fs.com.au>:

[#20723] [Bug #911] ArgumentError in Resolv#getaddress — Federico Builes <redmine@...>

Bug #911: ArgumentError in Resolv#getaddress

14 messages 2008/12/20

[#20797] [Bug #921] autoload is not thread-safe — Charles Nutter <redmine@...>

Bug #921: autoload is not thread-safe

15 messages 2008/12/22

[#20893] [Bug #932] incorrect case statement in "ext/dl/test/test_base.rb" causes library problems on openSUSE 11.1 64-bit — Ed Borasky <redmine@...>

Bug #932: incorrect case statement in "ext/dl/test/test_base.rb" causes library problems on openSUSE 11.1 64-bit

8 messages 2008/12/26

[#20978] Definable != is a Bad Thing™ — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

> >> class X; def == o; :great; end; def != o; :horrible; end; end

20 messages 2008/12/30
[#20979] Re: Definable != is a Bad Thing™ — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/30

Hi,

[#20994] [Bug #956] Encoding: nl_langinfo(CODESET) on cygwin 1.5 always returns US-ASCII — Tom Link <redmine@...>

Bug #956: Encoding: nl_langinfo(CODESET) on cygwin 1.5 always returns US-ASCII

10 messages 2008/12/30

[#20999] Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Shri Borde <Shri.Borde@...>

Hi,

27 messages 2008/12/30
[#21002] Re: Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/12/31

On Dec 30, 2008, at 15:00 PM, Shri Borde wrote:

[#21010] Re: Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Shri Borde <Shri.Borde@...> 2008/12/31

http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/classes/Thread.html#M000461 says:

[#21245] Re: Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2009/01/10

I'm starting come around to Shri's idea of critical= being represented

[#21353] Re: Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Shri Borde <Shri.Borde@...> 2009/01/14

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[#21359] Re: Supporting Thread.critical=with native threads — Brent Roman <brent@...> 2009/01/15

[ruby-core:20791] Re: use of require thread safety

From: Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>
Date: 2008-12-22 16:27:01 UTC
List: ruby-core #20791
Robert Klemme wrote:
> 2008/12/21 Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com>:
>> Gary Wright wrote:
>>> I admit to not thinking about this too much but shouldn't there be a
>>> global lock on things like require and load?  If it isn't enforced by Ruby
>>> itself, I would think that a properly designed multi-threaded application
>>> shouldn't have multiple threads contending for access to global state
>>> without proper locking.
>> It certainly could, but that is a behavioral change; there's no way to
>> require files in separate threads at the same time. Of course, maybe it's a
>> bad idea to allow that in the first place.
> 
> I don't think there should be locking involved for "load" as that
> loads a file unconditionally. When using "load" one must be aware of
> the fact that the file can be loaded multiple times - including
> concurrently.

I tend to agree. Load explicitly bypasses things like $" population so 
you can load the same file repeatedly if you want to. So I think load 
should be the lock-free low-level "always execute target file" version. 
And in truth, require is largely implemented in terms of load.

> For "require" the story looks a bit different.  If I am not mistaken
> you would need a reentrant lock per (case insensitive? - probably
> depending on file system) string after "require" as the smallest
> granularity.  Hm...  The longer I think about it the more I believe
> that a single reentrant lock for "require" is probably the most robust
> solution...

I think it has to be a single lock or nothing, due to the deadlock 
possibilities of a lock-per-resources.

So I'll summarize my position here:

- requires cannot safely be done concurrently because they will cause 
resources (classes, modules) to be accessed before they are completely 
loaded and initialized.
- The simplest solution for this is to not require resources 
concurrently, which is certainly a valid solution which requires no 
locks and no behavioral changes.
- A lock per resources or per name is broken, due to deadlock potential, 
and so is not the right solution
- A single global lock would fix require concurrency (and almost be 
enough to fix autoload concurrency) but would introduce the behavioral 
change that only one require can execute at a time.
- I'm not strongly leaning toward either "no fix" or a global require 
lock. It doesn't bother me terrible that require isn't thread-safe, 
since the simple fix of "don't do that" solve the problem without 
complication.

> While we're at it: what happens to "require" in light of changes to $:
> and current directory?

I don't think it would make any difference; both just change how it 
searches for files, and should not affect concurrency characteristics.

- Charlie

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