[#15359] Timeout::Error — Jeremy Thurgood <jerith@...>

Good day,

41 messages 2008/02/05
[#15366] Re: Timeout::Error — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/02/06

On Feb 5, 2008, at 06:20 AM, Jeremy Thurgood wrote:

[#15370] Re: Timeout::Error — Jeremy Thurgood <jerith@...> 2008/02/06

Eric Hodel wrote:

[#15373] Re: Timeout::Error — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/02/06

Hi,

[#15374] Re: Timeout::Error — Jeremy Thurgood <jerith@...> 2008/02/06

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#15412] Re: Timeout::Error — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/02/07

Hi,

[#15413] Re: Timeout::Error — Jeremy Thurgood <jerith@...> 2008/02/07

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#15414] Re: Timeout::Error — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/02/07

Hi,

[#15360] reopen: can't change access mode from "w+" to "w"? — Sam Ruby <rubys@...>

I ran 'rake test' on test/spec [1], using

16 messages 2008/02/05
[#15369] Re: reopen: can't change access mode from "w+" to "w"? — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/02/06

Hi,

[#15389] STDIN encoding differs from default source file encoding — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

This seems strange:

21 messages 2008/02/06
[#15392] Re: STDIN encoding differs from default source file encoding — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/02/06

Hi,

[#15481] very bad character performance on ruby1.9 — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...>

I'd like to bring up the issue of how characters are represented in

16 messages 2008/02/10

[#15528] Test::Unit maintainer — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...>

Hi Nathaniel, Ryan,

22 messages 2008/02/13

[#15551] Proc#curry — ts <decoux@...>

21 messages 2008/02/14
[#15557] Re: [1.9] Proc#curry — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/02/15

ts wrote:

[#15558] Re: [1.9] Proc#curry — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/02/15

Hi,

[#15560] Re: Proc#curry — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/02/15

[#15585] Ruby M17N meeting summary — Martin Duerst <duerst@...>

This is a rough translation of the Japanese meeting summary

19 messages 2008/02/18

[#15596] possible bug in regexp lexing — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

current:

17 messages 2008/02/19

[#15678] Re: [ANN] MacRuby — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

On 2/27/08, Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti@gmail.com> wrote:

18 messages 2008/02/28
[#15679] Re: [ANN] MacRuby — "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2008/02/28

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com> wrote:

[#15680] Re: [ANN] MacRuby — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/02/28

Hi,

[#15683] Re: [ANN] MacRuby — "Laurent Sansonetti" <laurent.sansonetti@...> 2008/02/28

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

Re: Timeout::Error

From: MenTaLguY <mental@...>
Date: 2008-02-07 20:07:15 UTC
List: ruby-core #15422
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:37:57 +0900, Kurt Stephens <ks@kurtstephens.com> wrote:
>   We use Timeout frequently for computations that we explicitly want to
> stop after a specific amount of time; we have hard timing constraints.
> If we can't compute it in time, we need to decide on a different course
> of action.

How hard are your timing constraints?  Remember that the delivery
of Thread#kill is not necessarily instantaneous, depending on how other
threads are scheduled.  Would it be feasible to check a flag or an
elapsed time during the computation itself?
 
> The only thing that is "exceptional" about Timeout errors is the
> delivery mechanism.

It's the delivery mechanism that's the basic problem; in a language
with side-effects (like Ruby), it is seldom possible to write code that
is entirely robust against asynchronous exceptions, and worse, most of
Ruby stdlib is not robust against them, so you must avoid any stdlib
code except simple blocking calls.

Given that, as long as none of the mutable objects modified by your
aborted computation persist past the timeout, you are okay, but that
is more difficult to achieve than you might naively expect.

-mental



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