[#12372] Release compatibility/train — Prashant Srinivasan <Prashant.Srinivasan@...>

Hello all,

28 messages 2007/10/03
[#12373] Re: Release compatibility/train — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/03

Hi,

[#12374] Re: Release compatibility/train — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/03

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#12376] Re: Release compatibility/train — Prashant Srinivasan <Prashant.Srinivasan@...> 2007/10/03

[#12377] Re: Release compatibility/train — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/03

Hi,

[#12382] Re: Release compatibility/train — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/10/03

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#12385] Re: Release compatibility/train — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/03

Hi,

[#12388] Re: Release compatibility/train — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/10/03

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#12389] Re: Release compatibility/train — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/03

Hi,

[#12406] Re: Release compatibility/train — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/10/03

Hi --

[#12383] Include Rake in Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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20 messages 2007/10/03

[#12539] Ordered Hashes in 1.9? — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2007/10/08
[#12542] Re: Ordered Hashes in 1.9? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/08

Hi,

[#12681] Unicode: Progress? — murphy <murphy@...>

Hello!

17 messages 2007/10/15

[#12693] retry: revised 1.9 http patch — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>

I'm reposting this because I've had little response to this version

11 messages 2007/10/15

[#12697] Range.first is incompatible with Enumerable.first — David Flanagan <david@...>

The new Enumerable.first method is a generalization of Array.first to

11 messages 2007/10/16

[#12754] Improving 'syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting kEND'? — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>

I've had a look at this, but can't see how to do it: When I get

17 messages 2007/10/18
[#12886] Re: Improving 'syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting kEND'? — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/23

The patch below changes this message to:

[#12758] Encoding::primary_encoding — David Flanagan <david@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2007/10/18
[#12763] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/19

Hi,

[#12802] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/21

Nobuyoshi Nakada schrieb:

[#12803] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/21

Hi,

[#12804] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/21

Nobuyoshi Nakada schrieb:

[#12808] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/22

Hi,

[#12818] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/22

Nobuyoshi Nakada schrieb:

[#12820] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2007/10/22

T24gMjIvMTAvMjAwNywgV29sZmdhbmcgTsOhZGFzaS1Eb25uZXIgPGVkLm9kYW5vd0B3b25hZG8u

[#12823] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/22

Michal Suchanek schrieb:

[#12824] Re: Encoding::primary_encoding — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/22

Hi,

[#12767] \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...>

Back at the end of August, Matz wrote (see

45 messages 2007/10/19
[#12769] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — "Nobuyoshi Nakada" <nobu@...> 2007/10/19

Hi,

[#12782] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/20

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#12831] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/22

Hi,

[#12841] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/22

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#12862] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/10/23

At 04:19 07/10/23, David Flanagan wrote:

[#12864] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/23

Martin Duerst wrote:

[#12870] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/10/23

At 13:10 07/10/23, David Flanagan wrote:

[#12872] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/23

Martin Duerst wrote:

[#12936] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/25

Hi,

[#12980] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/26

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#13028] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/29

Hi,

[#13032] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/10/29

Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#13034] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/29

Hi,

[#13082] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/10/30

At 16:46 07/10/29, Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#13231] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/11/06

Hi,

[#13234] Re: \u escapes in string literals: proof of concept implementation — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2007/11/06

At 11:29 07/11/06, Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#12825] clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...>

Hi,

53 messages 2007/10/22
[#12830] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Ben Bleything <ben@...> 2007/10/22

On Mon, Oct 22, 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#12833] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2007/10/22

On 23/10/07 at 00:13 +0900, Ben Bleything wrote:

[#12835] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/10/22

On 10/22/07, Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net> wrote:

[#12836] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2007/10/22

On 23/10/07 at 01:55 +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#12888] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/10/23

Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#12894] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2007/10/24

On 24/10/07 at 05:14 +0900, Gonzalo Garramu wrote:

[#13057] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Gonzalo Garramu <ggarra@...> 2007/10/29

Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

[#13058] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2007/10/29

On 30/10/07 at 07:28 +0900, Gonzalo Garramu wrote:

[#12848] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2007/10/22

On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:55:29AM +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#12855] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/10/23

On 10/22/07, Sam Roberts <sroberts@uniserve.com> wrote:

[#13016] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — bob@... (Bob Proulx) 2007/10/28

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#13029] Re: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths? — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/10/29

On 10/28/07, Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> wrote:

[#13054] Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2007/10/29

Austin,

[#13055] Re: Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/10/29

On 10/29/07, Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net> wrote:

[#13064] Re: Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2007/10/30

On 10/29/07, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:

[#13066] Re: Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/10/30

On 10/30/07, Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:

[#13094] Re: Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — "Rick Bradley" <rick@...> 2007/10/30

Do we think that maybe, just maybe, things went off the rails when the

[#13095] Re: Austin Ziegler's behaviour (Was: clarification of ruby libraries installation paths?) — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2007/10/30

On 10/30/07, Rick Bradley <rick@rickbradley.com> wrote:

[#12900] Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...>

Dear Ruby 1.9 architects, developers, and testers!

31 messages 2007/10/24
[#12905] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/24

Hi,

[#12907] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/24

Yukihiro Matsumoto schrieb:

[#12909] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/24

Hi,

[#12940] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/25
[#12942] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2007/10/25

I have a (hopefully) final question before testing all

[#12948] Re: Hopefully Complete List of Possible Encoding Specifications - Existing Ones — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/10/26

Hi,

[#12951] Fluent programming in Ruby — David Flanagan <david@...>

From the ChangeLog:

16 messages 2007/10/26

[#12996] General hash keys for colon notation — murphy <murphy@...>

Dear language designer(s) and parser wizards,

16 messages 2007/10/28

[#13027] Implementation of "guessUTF" method - final questions — Wolfgang Nádasi-Donner <ed.odanow@...>

Dear Ruby designers, developers, and testers!

22 messages 2007/10/29

[#13069] new Enumerable.butfirst method — David Flanagan <david@...>

Matz,

17 messages 2007/10/30

Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9

From: Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>
Date: 2007-10-13 09:30:56 UTC
List: ruby-core #12644
On Oct 13, 2007, at 01:24 , Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> In message "Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9"
>     on Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:01:36 +0900, Eric Hodel  
> <drbrain@segment7.net> writes:
>
> |Are there any other outstanding issues before I go ahead?
> |
> |I see a thread in ruby-dev about importing RubyGems, but I cannot
> |read Japanese.
>
> We are discussing how we call rubygems after the merge.  Possible
> options are:
>
>   (a) just merge; if one wants to load libraries from gems, he needs
>       to require 'rubygems' first.  very traditional, but introduces
>       unnecessary normal library/gem'ed library separation.
>
>   (b) silently require 'rubygems' in initialization process.  rubygems
>       requires a lot of other libraries, so that memory consumption
>       might be an issue.
>
>   (c) create (or separate) tiny library only for finding gems, and let
>       it be loaded in the initialization (from prelude.rb).  but no
>       one knows how easy/difficult to make such a library (yet).
>
> How do you think?

I would like to do (b), but (a) is acceptable to me.  I think it is  
possible to remove most of the files RubyGems loads with require  
'rubygems' using caching, which would be an easier alternative to  
(c), however this would be probably not be much easier.

To provide more information, RubyGems has changed the amount of files  
it loads for require 'rubygems' since 0.9.4 to reduce the amount of  
memory used and to decrease startup time.  Most of the files loaded  
in 0.9.4 were completely unnecessary.

I have 48 gems installed, and these are the differences between  
RubyGems 0.9.4 and 0.9.4.5.

RubyGems 0.9.4:
1.34MB for ruby18
5.36MB for ruby18 + require 'rubygems'
6.63MB for ruby18 + require 'rubygems' + require 'zentest'

RubyGems 0.9.4.5:
1.34MB for ruby18
3.26MB for ruby18 + require 'rubygems'
3.85MB for ruby18 + require 'rubygems' + require 'zentest'

(I only have ten gems installed in 1.9, so I didn't think it was fair  
to compare.  Ruby 1.9 seems to use more memory than 1.8 in this small  
test, though.)

In total, RubyGems 0.9.4.5 requires 21 additional files on 1.9.  The  
following non-RubyGems files are loading with require 'rubygems':

rbconfig.rb
thread.rb
forwardable.rb
rational.rb
date/format.rb
time.rb

On OS X, these six files add ~ 1.5MB.

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