[#98645] [Ruby master Misc#16933] DevelopersMeeting20200618Japan — mame@...

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[#98947] [Ruby master Feature#16986] Anonymous Struct literal — ko1@...

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[#98964] [Ruby master Feature#16989] Sets: need ♥️ — marcandre-ruby-core@...

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[#98965] [Ruby master Feature#16990] Sets: operators compatibility with Array — marcandre-ruby-core@...

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[#98968] [Ruby master Feature#16993] Sets: from hash keys using Hash#key_set — marcandre-ruby-core@...

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[#98997] [Ruby master Feature#17000] 2.7.2 turns off deprecation warnings by deafult — mame@...

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[ruby-core:98814] [Ruby master Bug#14541] Class variables have broken semantics, let's fix them

From: eregontp@...
Date: 2020-06-15 20:12:52 UTC
List: ruby-core #98814
Issue #14541 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


@byroot you're right, that behavior is still there.
So when defining a class var in a parent after it's defined in a child class, then it already warned (and removed in the child) and now will raise.
But the reverse case, when setting in a child class after the parent class, then it just writes to the parent variable.

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Bug #14541: Class variables have broken semantics, let's fix them
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14541#change-86176

* Author: Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
* Status: Assigned
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
* ruby -v: ruby 2.6.0dev (2018-01-29 trunk 62091) [x86_64-linux]
* Backport: 2.3: UNKNOWN, 2.4: UNKNOWN, 2.5: UNKNOWN
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Class variables have the weird semantics of being tied to the class hierarchy and being inherited between classes.
I think this is counter-intuitive, dangerous and basically nobody expects this behavior.

To illustrate that, we can break the tmpdir stdlib by defining a top-level class variable:

    $ ruby -rtmpdir -e '$SAFE=1; @@systmpdir=42; p Dir.mktmpdir {}'
    -e:1: warning: class variable access from toplevel
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    	3: from -e:1:in `<main>'
    	2: from /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/tmpdir.rb:86:in `mktmpdir'
    	1: from /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/tmpdir.rb:125:in `create'
    /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/tmpdir.rb:125:in `join': no implicit conversion of Integer into String (TypeError)

Or even simpler in RubyGems:

    $ ruby -e '@@all=42; p Gem.ruby_version'
    -e:1: warning: class variable access from toplevel
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    	3: from -e:1:in `<main>'
    	2: from /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/rubygems.rb:984:in `ruby_version'
    	1: from /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/rubygems/version.rb:199:in `new'
    /home/eregon/prefix/ruby-trunk/lib/ruby/2.6.0/rubygems/version.rb:199:in `[]': no implicit conversion of String into Integer (TypeError)

So defining a class variable on Object removes class variables in all classes inheriting from Object.
Maybe @@systmpdir is not so prone to conflict, but how about @@identifier, @@context, @@locales, @@sequence, @@all, etc which are class variables of the standard library?

Moreover, class variables are extremely complex to implement correctly and very difficult to optimize due to the complex semantics.
In fact, none of JRuby, TruffleRuby, Rubinius and MRuby implement the "setting a class var on Object removes class vars in subclasses".
It seems all implementations but MRI print :foo twice here (instead of :foo :toplevel for MRI):

~~~ ruby
class Foo
  @@cvar = :foo
  def self.read
    @@cvar
  end
end

p Foo.read
@@cvar = :toplevel
p Foo.read
~~~


Is there any library actually taking advantage that class variables are inherited between classes? I would guess not or very few.
Therefore, I propose to give class variable intuitive semantics: no inheritance, they behave just like variables of that specific class, much like class-level instance variables (but separate for compatibility).

Another option is to remove them completely, but that's likely too hard for compatibility.

Thoughts?



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