[#53944] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8210][Open] Multibyte character interfering with end-line character within a regex — "sawa (Tsuyoshi Sawada)" <sawadatsuyoshi@...>

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[#54185] [CommonRuby - Feature #8257][Open] Exception#cause to carry originating exception along with new one — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

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[#54196] Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>

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[#54200] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Marc-Andre Lafortune <ruby-core-mailing-list@...> 2013/04/11

Hi,

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As far as I understand, what is CommonRuby and the process over CommonRuby

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[#54288] [CommonRuby - Feature #8271][Open] Proposal for moving to a more visible, formal process for feature requests — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

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Hello ruby-core,

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[#54621] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "ko1 (Koichi Sasada)" <redmine@...>

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[#54643] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura)" <authorNari@...> 2013/04/28

[#54649] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2013/04/28

(2013/04/28 9:23), authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura) wrote:

[#54657] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...> 2013/04/28

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, ko1 (Koichi Sasada)

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[ruby-core:54092] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8223] Make Matrix more omnivorous.

From: "marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2013-04-08 03:21:49 UTC
List: ruby-core #54092
Issue #8223 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).

Category set to lib
Assignee set to marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)
Priority changed from Normal to Low

Summary: I could consider injecting nothing instead of 0, but can not consider a generic `SomeClass.zero`. I don't feel your example is a good justification of a need of not injecting 0.

boris_stitnicky (Boris Stitnicky) wrote:
> Let's imagine a class Metre, whose instances represent physical magnitudes in metres.
> 
>     class Metre
>       attr_reader :magnitude
>       def initialize magnitude; @magnitude = magnitude end
>       def to_s; magnitude.to_s + ".m" end
>     end
> 
> Let's say that metres can be multiplied by a number:
> And that they can be summed up with other magnitudes in metres, but, as a feature,
> not with numbers (apples, pears, seconds, kelvins...).

Shouldn't 0 be specially allowed, i.e 1.m + 0 == 1.m?

> And with defined #coerce:
> 
>     class Metre
>       def coerce other; [ self, other ] end
>     end

This is not the way to define `coerce`. I'm sorry there are not precise specs for coercion, but the idea is to return [transform(other), transform2(self)] such that both elements are compatible. You are reversing the order of things! AFAIK, there is no guarantee this will continue to work as you want it to.

Check how the Matrix class does it (by using an intermediary Scalar class).

But I'm not convinced you have the right approach with the Metre class. Have you tried defining instead a class `MeasureWithPhysicalUnit` (feel free to shorten the name :-)). You'll need a class "PhysicalUnit" too.

In that case, it would be easy to coerce a numeric value:

    class Metre
       def coerce other; [ MeasureWithPhysicalUnit.new(other, ''), self ] end
    end

This probably will be a bit more complex. This should allow a more sensible way of working, and 2.m * 3.m would == 6.m^2

> It works, but the joy does not last long. The user will fail miserably if ze wants to perform matrix multiplication:

Right. Just allow addition with 0, which you have zero reason not to implement.

> But this is not a very systematic solution. Actually, I think that the Matrix class would be more flexible, if, instead of simply using 0, it asked the elements of the matrix what their zero

Definitely not necessary. As you realized in a later email, the 0 is injected in case of empty matrices. If this really was a problem for you, it would be easy to inject the first term in the summation instead (and handle the empty matrix case another way). In no case could a Metre.zero be used, because there is Meter to get in case of zero matrices...

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Feature #8223: Make Matrix more omnivorous.
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8223#change-38343

Author: boris_stitnicky (Boris Stitnicky)
Status: Open
Priority: Low
Assignee: marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)
Category: lib
Target version: 


Let's imagine a class Metre, whose instances represent physical magnitudes in metres.

    class Metre
      attr_reader :magnitude
      def initialize magnitude; @magnitude = magnitude end
      def to_s; magnitude.to_s + ".m" end
    end

Let's say that metres can be multiplied by a number:

    class Metre
      def * multiplicand
        case multiplicand
        when Numeric then Metre.new( magnitude * multiplicand )
        else
          raise "Metres can only be multiplied by numbers, multiplication by #{multiplicand.class} attempted!"
        end
      end
    end

And that they can be summed up with other magnitudes in metres, but, as a feature,
not with numbers (apples, pears, seconds, kelvins...).

    class Metre
      def + summand
        case summand
        when Metre then Metre.new( magnitude + summand.magnitude )
        else
          raise "Metres can only be summed with metres, summation with #{summand.class} attempted!"
        end
      end
    end

Now with one more convenience constructor Numeric#m:

    class Numeric
      def m; Metre.new self end
    end

We can write expressions such as

    3.m + 5.m
    #=> 8.m
    3.m * 2
    #=> 6.m

And with defined #coerce:

    class Metre
      def coerce other; [ self, other ] end
    end

Also this expression is valid:

    2 * 3.m
    #=> 6.m

Before long, the user will want to make a matrix of magnitudes:

    require 'matrix'
    mx = Matrix.build 2, 2 do 1.m end
    #=> Matrix[[1.m, 1.m], [1.m, 1.m]]

It works, but the joy does not last long. The user will fail miserably if ze wants to perform matrix multiplication:

    cv = Matrix.column_vector [1, 1]
    mx * cv
    #=> RuntimeError: Metres can only be summed with metres, summation with Fixnum attempted!
    # where 2.m would be expected

In theory, everything should be O.K., since Metre class has both metre summation and multiplication by a number defined. The failure happens due to the internal workings of the Matrix class, which assumes that the elements can be summed together with numeric 0. But it is a feature of metres, that they are picky and allow themselves to be summed only with other Metre instances.

In my real physical units library that I have written, I have solved this problem by
defining an 端ber zero object that produces the expected result, when summed with objects, that would otherwise not lend themselves to summation with ordinary numeric 0,
and patching the Matrix class so that it uses this 端ber zero instead of the ordinary one.

But this is not a very systematic solution. Actually, I think that the Matrix class would be more flexible, if, instead of simply using 0, it asked the elements of the matrix what their zero is, as in:

    class << Metre
      def zero; new 0 end
    end

But of course, that would also require that ordinary numeric classes can tell what their zero is, as in:

    def Integer.zero; 0 end
    def Float.zero; 0.0 end
    def Complex.zero; Complex 0.0, 0.0 end
    # etc.

I think that this way of doing things (that is, having #zero methods in numeric classes and making Matrix actually require the class of the objects in it to have public class method #zero defined) would make everything more consistent and more algebra-like. I am having this problem for already almost half a year, but I only gathered courage today to encumber you guys with this proposal. Please don't judge me harshly for it. I have actually already seen something like this, in particular with bigdecimal's Jacobian (http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0/libdoc/bigdecimal/rdoc/Jacobian.html), which requires that the object from which the Jacobian is computed implements methods #zero, #one, #two etc. Sorry again.


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