[#53944] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8210][Open] Multibyte character interfering with end-line character within a regex — "sawa (Tsuyoshi Sawada)" <sawadatsuyoshi@...>

14 messages 2013/04/03

[#53974] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8215][Open] Support accessing Fiber-locals and backtraces for a Fiber — "halorgium (Tim Carey-Smith)" <ruby-lang-bugs@...>

14 messages 2013/04/03

[#54095] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8237][Open] Logical method chaining via inferred receiver — "wardrop (Tom Wardrop)" <tom@...>

34 messages 2013/04/08

[#54138] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8241][Open] If uri host-part has underscore ( '_' ), 'URI#parse' raise 'URI::InvalidURIError' — "neocoin (Sangmin Ryu)" <neocoin@...>

9 messages 2013/04/09

[#54185] [CommonRuby - Feature #8257][Open] Exception#cause to carry originating exception along with new one — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

43 messages 2013/04/11

[#54196] Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>

I think we need to do more to encourage the use of the CommonRuby

20 messages 2013/04/11
[#54200] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Marc-Andre Lafortune <ruby-core-mailing-list@...> 2013/04/11

Hi,

[#54211] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2013/04/12

As far as I understand, what is CommonRuby and the process over CommonRuby

[#54215] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2013/04/12

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM, NARUSE, Yui <naruse@airemix.jp> wrote:

[#54207] [CommonRuby - Feature #8258][Open] Dir#escape_glob — "steveklabnik (Steve Klabnik)" <steve@...>

15 messages 2013/04/12

[#54218] [CommonRuby - Feature #8259][Open] Atomic attributes accessors — "funny_falcon (Yura Sokolov)" <funny.falcon@...>

43 messages 2013/04/12

[#54288] [CommonRuby - Feature #8271][Open] Proposal for moving to a more visible, formal process for feature requests — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

15 messages 2013/04/15

[#54333] Requesting Commit Access — Aman Gupta <ruby@...1.net>

Hello ruby-core,

16 messages 2013/04/16

[#54473] [Backport 200 - Backport #8299][Open] Minor error in float parsing — "bobjalex (Bob Alexander)" <bobjalex@...>

27 messages 2013/04/19

[#54532] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8315][Open] mkmf does not include include paths from pkg_config anymore — "Hanmac (Hans Mackowiak)" <hanmac@...>

11 messages 2013/04/23

[#54621] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "ko1 (Koichi Sasada)" <redmine@...>

43 messages 2013/04/27
[#54643] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura)" <authorNari@...> 2013/04/28

[#54649] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2013/04/28

(2013/04/28 9:23), authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura) wrote:

[#54657] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...> 2013/04/28

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, ko1 (Koichi Sasada)

[#54665] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8344][Open] Status of Psych and Syck — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <redmine@...>

18 messages 2013/04/28

[ruby-core:54314] [CommonRuby - Feature #8273] Make it possible to treat objects as falsy in order to make NullObjects more convenient

From: "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>
Date: 2013-04-16 04:45:08 UTC
List: ruby-core #54314
Issue #8273 has been updated by headius (Charles Nutter).


I think you might have submitted this before, but I'd like to enter my *strong* opposition to this.

* It most definitely would affect performance. Any language construct that needs to check for truthiness would suddenly have to do a method call rather than simply an identity check.
* I think it is a terrible thing that other languages like Python and PHP make it possible for the same object to be true one moment and false the next (e.g. a list that empties out or a string that is blanked). What is true should always be true; what is false should always be false.

The last point is my really strong position. I do not think it should ever be possible for the contents of an object to define its truthiness, and by extension for changes to the contents of an object to change its truthiness.
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Feature #8273: Make it possible to treat objects as falsy in order to make NullObjects more convenient
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8273#change-38595

Author: prijutme4ty (Ilya Vorontsov)
Status: Open
Priority: Normal
Assignee: 
Category: 
Target version: 


NullObject is quite a useful pattern. But refactoring from conditionals to null-object can be very painful because an instance of NullObject will be treated as truthy so code `... if obj` can change its behavior. It'd be great to treat such objects as falsy. Most simple and consistent solution is to make method like #to_boolean or may be #__to_bool (not to break compatibility) which returns false for NilClass and FalseClass and true otherwise unless redefined.
I don't know whether perfomance impact'll be high or no.
It's one of a few things which cannot be reimplemented using ruby itself, so there is no possibility to construct a gem as a PoC


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