[#19075] Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — James Gray <james@...>

I'm disappointed that Ruby still supports this goofy syntax:

30 messages 2008/10/01
[#19076] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2008/10/01

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:58 PM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#19078] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — "Jim Freeze" <jimfreeze@...> 2008/10/01

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:

[#19080] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — James Gray <james@...> 2008/10/01

On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#19081] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — "Jim Freeze" <jimfreeze@...> 2008/10/01

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#19082] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — James Gray <james@...> 2008/10/01

On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#19083] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/10/01

On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:42 AM, James Gray wrote:

[#19084] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2008/10/01

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#19087] Re: Request For Removal: No Operator Concatenation — "Jim Freeze" <jimfreeze@...> 2008/10/01

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:

[#19132] [Feature #615] "with" operator — Lavir the Whiolet <redmine@...>

Feature #615: "with" operator

33 messages 2008/10/05
[#19137] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/06

Hi,

[#19138] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/10/06

On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:46:49AM +0900, Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:

[#19141] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — _why <why@...> 2008/10/06

On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:56:23PM +0900, Paul Brannan wrote:

[#19148] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — Trans <transfire@...> 2008/10/06

[#19149] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2008/10/06

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#19150] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/10/06

Hi --

[#19154] Re: [Feature #615] "with" operator — _why <why@...> 2008/10/07

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:47:23AM +0900, David A. Black wrote:

[#19250] default_internal encoding — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

I'm documenting default_internal for the PickAxe, and have a couple of

26 messages 2008/10/09
[#19254] Re: default_internal encoding — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/09

Hi,

[#19255] Re: performance of C function calls in 1.8 vs 1.9 — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/10

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Paul Brannan <pbrannan / atdesk.com> wrote:

[#19289] [Bug #633] dl segfaults on x86_64-linux systems — Benjamin Floering <redmine@...>

Bug #633: dl segfaults on x86_64-linux systems

19 messages 2008/10/10

[#19315] [Feature #643] __DIR__ — Thomas Sawyer <redmine@...>

Feature #643: __DIR__

14 messages 2008/10/13

[#19342] [Bug #649] Memory leak in a array assignment? — Henri Suur-Inkeroinen <redmine@...>

Bug #649: Memory leak in a array assignment?

14 messages 2008/10/15

[#19350] Net::HTTP.post_form bug : can't post form to correct uri which contains QueryString(QueryString part are lost) and revise — Klesh <kleshwong@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2008/10/16
[#19352] Re: Net::HTTP.post_form bug : can't post form to correct uri which contains QueryString(QueryString part are lost) and revise — "Matt Todd" <chiology@...> 2008/10/16

You are trying to use GET-style query params instead of POSTing the

[#19378] Constant names in 1.9 — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

When Ruby makes the tIDENTIFIER/tCONSTANT test, it looks to see if the =20=

13 messages 2008/10/18

[#19397] [Feature #666] Enumerable::to_hash — Marc-Andre Lafortune <redmine@...>

Feature #666: Enumerable::to_hash

14 messages 2008/10/20
[#23249] [Feature #666](Rejected) Enumerable::to_hash — Yukihiro Matsumoto <redmine@...> 2009/04/18

Issue #666 has been updated by Yukihiro Matsumoto.

[#19422] Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

is there anything that

24 messages 2008/10/21
[#19423] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Wolfgang N疆asi-Donner <ed.odanow@...> 2008/10/21

Dave Thomas schrieb:

[#19424] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/10/21

[#19427] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/10/21

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:01:45AM +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#19429] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/10/21

Hi --

[#19430] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/10/21

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:38:19AM +0900, David A. Black wrote:

[#19431] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2008/10/21

Hi --

[#19432] Re: Now that lambda has more powerful arguments... — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...> 2008/10/21

On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:24 PM, David A. Black wrote:

[#19465] [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is too late when encoding is mismatch — Takeyuki Fujioka <redmine@...>

Bug #680: csv.rb: CSV.parse is too late when encoding is mismatch

41 messages 2008/10/24
[#19466] Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is too late when encoding is mismatch) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/24

Hi,

[#19471] Re: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch) — Martin Duerst <duerst@...> 2008/10/24

A default for the source encoding has been discussed quite a long

[#19473] Re: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/24

Hi,

[#19474] Re: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/10/24

Hi,

[#19515] String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/26

Hi,

[#19517] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/26

Hi,

[#19518] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/26

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:26:32 +1100, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#19522] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/26

Hi,

[#19525] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/26

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:34:26 +1100, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#19531] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/27

Hi,

[#19532] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/27

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:07:54 +1100, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#19533] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/27

Hi,

[#19535] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/27

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:57 +1100, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#19538] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/27

Hi,

[#19540] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/27

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:55:32 +1100, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#19546] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch)) — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/10/27

Hi,

[#19480] Re: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch) — James Gray <james@...> 2008/10/24

On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:52 AM, Martin Duerst wrote:

[#19566] GC thought — "Roger Pack" <roger.pack@...>

Here is a recent patch I've been experimenting with--for any advice. [1]

26 messages 2008/10/28
[#19569] Re: GC thought — Ken Bloom <kbloom@...> 2008/10/28

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:02:17 +0900, Roger Pack wrote:

[#19575] Re: GC thought — "Roger Pack" <roger.pack@...> 2008/10/28

> Letting the program continue execution during the mark phase could cause

[#19577] Re: GC thought — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2008/10/28

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:04:52AM +0900, Roger Pack wrote:

[#19596] Re: GC thought — "Robert Klemme" <shortcutter@...> 2008/10/29

2008/10/28 Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com>:

[#19590] [Feature #695] More flexibility when combining ASCII-8BIT strings with other encodings — Michael Selig <redmine@...>

Feature #695: More flexibility when combining ASCII-8BIT strings with other encodings

13 messages 2008/10/29
[#19646] Re: [Feature #695] More flexibility when combining ASCII-8BIT strings with other encodings — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...> 2008/10/30

Hi,

[ruby-core:19517] Re: String literal encoding (Was: Default source encoding (Was: [Bug #680] csv.rb: CSV.parse is toolate when encoding is mismatch))

From: Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...>
Date: 2008-10-26 06:26:32 UTC
List: ruby-core #19517
Hi,

At Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:25:58 +0900,
Michael Selig wrote in [ruby-core:19515]:
> 1)
> My preference would be to *always* encode string literals constructed with  
> "\x.." as ASCII-8BIT, ignoring the source encoding. This means that if you  
> really want to use such a literal as an encoded string, you must use  
> "force_encoding". I think this would be much clearer and get rid of the  
> "ambiguity".

> 2)
> My suggestion for "defaulting" the source encoding was an attempt to avoid  
> having to do this (but probably not a good way!). It isn't a big deal, and  
> I understand the argument that the source encoding is a property of the  
> script. My original suggestion (last month) of a special magic comment was  
> to have a way of specifying BOTH the default_internal and source encoding  
> once, but this idea was rejected.

I'd prefer to default the internal encoding to the source
encoding of the main script.

> 3)
> Perhaps this check could be based on the library's source encoding? If  
> this were done, most libraries would have to use a source encoding of  
> US-ASCII (or just have no encoding magic comment) *not* UTF-8, so that  
> non-Unicode default_internal's will work. Perhaps Ruby could be smarter,  
> and only flag an error if there actually is an incomaptible string literal  
> in the library?

What about comments?  I suspect it might not a good idea.

> 4)
> Also it means that:
> 	ruby test.rb
> may perform differently than:
> 	ruby -e "`cat test.rb`"

magic comments are effective with -e too.

$ ruby19 -e 'p __ENCODING__'
#<Encoding:EUC-JP>

$ ruby19 -e '#-*- encoding:utf-8 -*-' -e 'p __ENCODING__'
#<Encoding:UTF-8>

Therefore no differences if the file has the magic comment.

-- 
Nobu Nakada

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