[#9869] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — <noreply@...>

Bugs item #7680, was opened at 2007-01-08 22:53

34 messages 2007/01/08
[#9871] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/08

Hi,

[#9872] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Evan Webb <evan@...> 2007/01/08

On Jan 8, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#9873] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/08

Hi,

[#9876] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — dblack@... 2007/01/09

Hi --

[#9878] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/09

Hi,

[#9879] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — dblack@... 2007/01/09

Hi --

[#9880] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/09

Hi,

[#9882] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2007/01/09

[#9885] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/09

Hi,

[#9887] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2007/01/09

[#9888] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/01/09

Evan Phoenix wrote:

[#9892] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/09

Hi,

[#9899] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/01/10

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#9904] Re: [ ruby-Bugs-7680 ] a block argument within a block which argument has the same name leaks — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/10

Hi,

[#9960] Scoping and locating definitions — Jos Backus <jos@...>

Consider the following:

17 messages 2007/01/18
[#9964] Re: Scoping and locating definitions — Pit Capitain <pit@...> 2007/01/19

Jos Backus schrieb:

[#9966] Re: Scoping and locating definitions — Jos Backus <jos@...> 2007/01/19

On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:40:03PM +0900, Pit Capitain wrote:

[#9972] Re: Scoping and locating definitions — Jos Backus <jos@...> 2007/01/19

On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 02:18:19AM +0900, Jos Backus wrote:

[#9996] new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

50 messages 2007/01/23
[#10002] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com> 2007/01/23

SASADA Koichi wrote:

[#10003] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/23

Hi,

[#10004] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2007/01/23

On Jan 23, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#10017] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com> 2007/01/24

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#10018] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/24

Hi,

[#10024] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com> 2007/01/24

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#10027] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/24

Hi,

[#10048] Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal) — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2007/01/25

The more this discussion goes on, the more I worry that Joe Q Public

[#10019] stable branch policy & schedule for 1.8.6 — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Core developers,

29 messages 2007/01/24
[#10021] Re: stable branch policy & schedule for 1.8.6 — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/01/24

Akinori MUSHA wrote:

[#10032] Re: stable branch policy & schedule for 1.8.6 — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2007/01/24

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#10085] Collaborative Ruby Language Specification — "John Lam (CLR)" <jflam@...>

Hi Everyone,

36 messages 2007/01/28
[#10108] Re: Collaborative Ruby Language Specification — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/01/29

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

[#10112] Re: Collaborative Ruby Language Specification — "Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira Jr." <eustaquiorangel@...> 2007/01/30

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[#10114] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — <noreply@...>

Patches item #8309, was opened at 2007-01-30 15:25

16 messages 2007/01/30
[#10131] Re: [ ruby-Patches-8309 ] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/31

[#10132] Re: [ ruby-Patches-8309 ] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — Paulo Kh <paulo.koch@...> 2007/01/31

On 2007/01/31, at 06:07, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#10137] Re: [ ruby-Patches-8309 ] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/01/31

Hi,

[#10139] Re: [ ruby-Patches-8309 ] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2007/01/31

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:19:34AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#10143] Re: [ ruby-Patches-8309 ] add usage of uri.userinfo to open-uri.rb — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/02/01

Hi,

Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal)

From: Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>
Date: 2007-01-23 14:26:17 UTC
List: ruby-core #10005
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, James Edward Gray II wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > In message "Re: new method dispatch rule (matz' proposal)"
> >    on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:56:11 +0900, Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@dan42.com>
> > writes:
> > 
> > |> (4) (unconfirmed) private method dispatch searches from caller method
> > class.
> > |
> > |Do I understand correctly that:
> > |  class A
> > |    def foo; bar; end
> > |    private
> > |    def bar; "A"; end
> > |  end
> > |  class B < A
> > |    private
> > |    def bar; "B"; end
> > |  end
> > |  B.new.foo #=> "A"
> > |
> > |So the only way to do polymorphism would be through public methods?
> > 
> > Yes.
> 
> That seems like a positive change to me.

Interesting.  Doesn't this mean more care will be needed to develop
private interfaces prior to them becoming public?  I was looking at
"Refactoring" again last night, and this talks about the benefits of
publishing interfaces as late as possible, because interface may
change as you refactor, and provided it is not published then that
doesn't matter.  With rdoc one can suppress publication, but even so
I fail to see the benefit of two inheritance models for the same
object.  Changing a method from private to public will change the
search "path" for that method.

Also, to get the redefined bar method in a call to foo in the above
example, class B would have to have its own implementation of foo.
I see this as leading to code duplication, which breaks DRY.

What is the underlying idea that makes this approach uniform and
cohesive?  If I could see that I'd be happier about this change.
That, and the DRY point, suggest I have misunderstood this whole
thing, because Ruby doesn't make things more difficult.  
Sorry for being slow on the uptake.
> 
> James Edward Gray II
> 
        Hugh

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