From: rr.rosas@... Date: 2018-01-11T15:16:49+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:84836] [Ruby trunk Feature#14336] Create new method String#symbol? and deprecate Symbol class Issue #14336 has been updated by rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas). > Meanwhile all your feedback is more than welcome but if you show up just to rant me like many did in this discussion understand that I will not consider any of your lines in my exercise. Daniel, I have no ideas on why you got those impressions. I've been asking for making Symbols the same as Strings for much longer than you and haven't changed my mind yet. I just mentioned that simply making Symbols inherit from Strings don't fix anything by its own if :id != 'id' and h[:id] != h['id']. Since this seems to be the case with Smalltalk, I just mentioned that the situation seems to be as broken in Smalltalk as it is in Ruby. I wasn't try to justify the status quo in any way. ---------------------------------------- Feature #14336: Create new method String#symbol? and deprecate Symbol class https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14336#change-69548 * Author: dsferreira (Daniel Ferreira) * Status: Rejected * Priority: Normal * Assignee: * Target version: ---------------------------------------- From the discussions on the three previous issues related to the String vs Symbol subject ([5964](https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/5964), [7792](https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/7792), [14277](https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14277)) there are some conclusions we can assume: * Current String vs Symbol is not the ideal scenario. See: Matz and Koichi comments. * Current philosophy is to use Symbols as identifiers and Strings when strings are needed. * Current situation is that Symbols are being used in many code bases as strings except for strings that really need the String methods. * Current situation is that we are designing APIs to handle both String and Symbol inputs forcing an overhead of API development. I propose the deprecation of `Symbol` class and the introduction of `String#symbol?`. ```ruby foo = :foo foo.class # => String foo.symbol? # => true bar = "bar" bar.class # => String bar.symbol? # => false ``` For backwards compatibility transition path I propose: ```ruby class Symbol def self.===(var) warn ("Warning message regarding deprecated class") if var.class == Symbol true elsif var.class == String && var.symbol? true else false end end end class String def is_a?(klass) case klass when String true when Symbol self.symbol? else false end end end ``` -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: