[#6143] — Christophe Poucet <christophe.poucet@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2005/10/04
[#6147] Re: patch.tgz — nobu.nokada@... 2005/10/04

Hi,

[#6199] Kernel rdoc HTML file not being created when rdoc is run on 1.8.3 — James Britt <ruby@...>

When 1.8.3 came out, I grabbed the source and ran rdoc on it. After

9 messages 2005/10/08

[#6251] RubyGems, upstream releases and idempotence of packaging — Mauricio Fern疣dez <mfp@...>

[sorry for the very late reply; I left this message in +postponed and forgot

14 messages 2005/10/12

[#6282] Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...>

Testing the My Object Dump and I am trying to cause creation

13 messages 2005/10/14
[#6283] Re: Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — Mauricio Fern疣dez <mfp@...> 2005/10/14

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 05:04:59PM +0900, Charles E. Thornton wrote:

[#6288] Re: Wilderness: Need Code to invoke ELTS_SHARED response — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...> 2005/10/14

Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:

[#6365] Time for built-in Rational and Complex classes? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

There has been some support for, but no comment on, RCR #260 ("Make

12 messages 2005/10/24
[#6366] Re: Time for built-in Rational and Complex classes? — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/24

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#6405] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — "Berger, Daniel" <Daniel.Berger@...>

12 messages 2005/10/25
[#6406] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — TRANS <transfire@...> 2005/10/25

On 10/25/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:

[#6408] Re: [PATCH] Pathname.exists?() — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2005/10/25

On 10/26/05, TRANS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#6442] Wilderness: I Have formatted README.EXT into an HTML Document — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...>

I have taken README.EXT (English Version Only) and have reformatted

14 messages 2005/10/27

[#6469] csv.rb a start on refactoring. — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>

For a database application I found using CSV to be rather slow.

50 messages 2005/10/28
[#6470] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/28

[#6471] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/28

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6474] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/28

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6484] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6485] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6486] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:25 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6487] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6491] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6493] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/29

On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:06 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6496] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/29

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6502] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/30

On Oct 29, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6505] Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring. — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/30

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6511] Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/10/30

I've decided to create a FasterCSV library, based on the code we

[#6516] Re: Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2005/10/31

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6518] Re: Planning FasterCSV (was Re: csv.rb a start on refactoring.) — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2005/10/31

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Re: gems is a language change, not a pkging system

From: James Britt <ruby@...>
Date: 2005-10-11 03:14:56 UTC
List: ruby-core #6223
Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> On 10/11/05, Sean E. Russell <ser@germane-software.com> wrote:
> 
>>>But what's so doggone hard or objectionable about installing gem Y if you've
>>>already  installed gem X?
>>
>>You misunderstood me.  I've already installed Y, but not as a Gem.  Now I try
>>to install X (which depends on Y).  What happens?
> 
> 
> Best case: it works because gem X only says -require 'y'-, which is
> resolved in site_ruby.
> 
> Worst case: gem X says -require_gem 'Y', '~> 1.0.2'-, which isn't
> resolved in site_ruby.  Solution: -gem install Y-  Now you've got Y
> installed in site_ruby *and* as a gem, which is not a problem.  It's
> worthwhile, because you can ensure that the *right* version of gem Y
> is there.
> 
> So you get a temporary interruption to your schedule.  All this is
> unlikely anyway, because when you installed gem X you are most likely
> to have also installed gem Y, as it was specified as a dependency.

I have a fuzzy recollection of some problems getting Rails  some 
releases ago.  Basically, installing Rails via gem would break on 
ActiveMailer (which was extra annoying as I had no need for the mailer 
lib; it is required, I guess,  because Hey, You Might Want It Some Day 
so you must install it).

Unable to resolve the issue, I go and install Rails from tarballs.  (And 
yes, at least at the time, finding them was tedious.)  Some time later, 
I retry a Rails install, have more issues, and just blow away all traces 
of Rails-related gems.  Installation via gems then goes fine.  But code 
acts funky sometimes, and I eventually track it down to the presence of 
the tarball Rails installation.  Old code installed "by hand" was 
grabbed in place of newer gems code.

Since then Ive been mindful of not having both a gem version and an 
install.rb version of any libs, so I can't say if this is still a 
problem for anyone.

James



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