[#18436] [ANN] Ruby 1.9.1 feature freeze — "Yugui (Yuki Sonoda)" <yugui@...>
Hi all,
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Yugui (Yuki Sonoda) <yugui@yugui.jp> wrote:
Michael Fellinger schrieb:
On 12/09/2008, Michael Neumann <mneumann@ntecs.de> wrote:
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Hi, Yusuke
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Ryan Davis wrote:
Dave Thomas wrote:
Jim Weirich wrote:
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On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:28:22PM +0900, Austin Ziegler wrote:
2008/10/8 Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com>:
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Trans wrote:
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Hi,
NARUSE, Yui wrote:
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM, David Flanagan <david@davidflanagan.com> wrote:
[#18437] Class as second-generation singleton class — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Hi --
[#18444] [PATCH] remove timer signal after last ruby thread has died — Joe Damato <ice799@...>
Hi -
Hi,
[#18446] Global constants and other magic in 1.9 stdlib — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...>
Hello
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 05:01, Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz> wrote:
[#18447] useless external functions — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
[#18452] [ANN] Ruby 1.9.1 feature freeze — "Roger Pack" <rogerpack2005@...>
Would it be possible to have a few patches applied before freeze [if
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
[#18454] WEBrick issue - HTTP/1.1 and IO objects — Brian Candler <B.Candler@...>
I am wondering if the following is a bug in WEBrick.
[#18486] Ruby 1.9 strings & character encoding — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
Firstly, I apologise if I am going over old ground here - I haven't been
Hi,
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:45:36 +1000, Yukihiro Matsumoto
Hi,
On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:43 AM, NARUSE, Yui wrote:
# First off, I'm neutral to this issue
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Urabe Shyouhei wrote:
In article <3119E5AB-AEC8-4FEE-B2FA-8C75482E0E9D@sun.com>,
At 18:07 08/09/10, Manfred Stienstra wrote:
In article <6.0.0.20.2.20080916184943.08a281f0@localhost>,
On 16/09/2008, Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org> wrote:
In article <a5d587fb0809170303x71ebde31r8adae082b82af182@mail.gmail.com>,
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:43:54 +1000, NARUSE, Yui <naruse@airemix.jp> wrote:
In article <op.ug6ubske9245dp@kool>,
In article <9888DBB2-0FE8-4C5C-8EF0-02D7C30157FA@pragprog.com>,
[#18513] Make irb start a new line on EOF — "Daniel Luz" <dev@...>
Other interactive interpreters (namely `python`, `lua`, `psh`, and
[#18522] Warning for trailing comma in method declarations — Kornelius Kalnbach <murphy@...>
hello!
[#18525] Ruby for OS/2 Maintainer — "Brendan Oakley" <gentux2@...>
Hello.
[#18532] Ruby 1.9 string performance — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
I would like to submit the attached patch to string.c which substantially
[#18535] [Bug #557] Regexp does not match longest string — Wim Yedema <redmine@...>
Bug #557: Regexp does not match longest string
Wim Yedema schrieb:
2008/9/10 Wolfgang N=E1dasi-Donner <ed.odanow@wonado.de>:
Robert Klemme schrieb:
[#18572] Working on CSV's Encoding Support — James Gray <james@...>
I'm trying to get the standard CSV library ready for m17n in Ruby
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:32 PM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:
On Sep 13, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Gregory Brown wrote:
On Sep 13, 2008, at 5:39 PM, James Gray wrote:
On Sep 13, 2008, at 11:55 PM, James Gray wrote:
At 00:43 08/09/15, James Gray wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:48:47 +1000, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net>
On Sep 14, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:51:55 +1000, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net>
On Sep 14, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:45:52 +1000, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net>
On Sep 14, 2008, at 8:42 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
[#18594] [Bug #564] Regexp fails on UTF-16 & UTF-32 character encodings — Michael Selig <redmine@...>
Bug #564: Regexp fails on UTF-16 & UTF-32 character encodings
In article <48cddb5533ad_8725cd9524342@redmine.ruby-lang.org>,
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:08:14 +1000, Tanaka Akira <akr@fsij.org> wrote:
[#18600] [Bug #566] String encoding error messages are inconsistent — Michael Selig <redmine@...>
Bug #566: String encoding error messages are inconsistent
[#18631] Request: File.binread (Or File.read_binary) — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>
Just incase it got lost in the other thread, I'd like to recommend the
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2008, at 09:48 AM, Gregory Brown wrote:
On Sep 18, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Eric Hodel wrote:
[#18637] Reading non-ascii compatible files — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#18640] Character encodings - a radical suggestion — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
Hi,
On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:51:14 +1000, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net>
On Sep 16, 2008, at 11:21 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
Hi,
On 9/17/2008 3:39 PM, NARUSE, Yui wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:45 AM, NARUSE, Yui wrote:
At 00:01 08/09/18, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:24:41 +1000, Yukihiro Matsumoto
Oops, I misfired my mail reader; the following is the right one:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:52:30 +1000, Yukihiro Matsumoto
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:05:30 +1000, Yukihiro Matsumoto
Hello Michael,
On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Martin Duerst wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:35:49 +1000, Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
At 12:25 08/09/22, Michael Selig wrote:
On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Martin Duerst wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
----- Original Message -----
On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:43 PM, James Gray wrote:
[#18698] Next design meeting — Evan Phoenix <evan@...>
Hi everyone,
[#18710] Encoding Safe Regexp.escape() — James Gray <james@...>
As part of my ongoing process to make CSV m17n savvy, I'm needing an =20
[#18750] M17N Inspect Messages — James Gray <james@...>
What is the correct way to handle inspect() with regards to M17N? Do
[#18762] [Feature #578] add method to disassemble Proc objects — Roger Pack <redmine@...>
Feature #578: add method to disassemble Proc objects
[#18813] Feature idea: Class#subclasses — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>
In JRuby we have added an extension that provides a "subclasses" method
[#18815] mv trunk/include/ruby/node.h to trunk/node.h — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
I moved trunk/include/ruby/node.h to trunk/node.h. On 1.9, only
[#18820] miniunit added — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
I've replaced test/unit with miniunit in order to meet the feature
SASADA Koichi wrote:
I got it.
[#18844] [Bug #592] String#rstrip sometimes strips NULLs, sometimes doesn't - encoding dependent — Michael Selig <redmine@...>
Bug #592: String#rstrip sometimes strips NULLs, sometimes doesn't - encoding dependent
[#18861] tokenizing regular expressions when passed as method params — "Seth Dillingham" <seth.dillingham@...>
Hi,
[#18866] I'm changing the PickAxe to document miniunit — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
What's the correct way to load it up:
[#18872] [RIP] Guy Decoux. — "Jean-Fran輟is Tr穗" <jftran@...>
Hello,
[#18879] Mini Unit changing exceptions — Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...>
Why does mini-unit change the exception in the test below?
On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Ryan Davis wrote:
[#18888] Re: [ruby-cvs:26761] Ruby:r19543 (trunk): Not a typo. The name is better plural. Better English and more consistent with the other assertions. — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...>
Hi,
[#18899] refute_{equal, match, nil, same} is not useful — Fujioka <fuj@...>
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Fujioka <fuj@rabbix.jp> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:
>I can actually see Ryan's point of saying that "refute_equal a, b"
Related to this:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>wrote:
2008/10/8 Eric Mahurin :
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Jean-Fran=E7ois Tr=E2n
[#18905] output format of miniunit — "Yusuke ENDOH" <mame@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#18931] test/testunit and miniunit — Tanaka Akira <akr@...>
Currently test-all exits prematurely.
[#18934] [ANN] delay of releasing 1.9.0-5 — "Yugui (Yuki Sonoda)" <yugui@...>
Hi,
[#18937] A stupid question... — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
Just what was wrong with Test::Unit? Sure, it was slightly bloated.
> -----Original Message-----
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Meinrad Recheis
On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:19 PM, hemant wrote:
2008/9/28 Trans <transfire@gmail.com>:
[#18944] [RCR] $ABOUT.ts — _why <why@...>
I don't want to be indelicate and we can address this some other
[#18985] Encodings::default_internal patch — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
Hi,
On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Michael Selig wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:02:57 +1000, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net>
On Sep 27, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Michael Selig wrote:
[#18986] miniunit problems and release of Ruby 1.9.0-5 — "Yugui (Yuki Sonoda)" <yugui@...>
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
[#19043] Ruby is "stealing" names from operating system API:s — "Johan Holmberg" <johan556@...>
Hi!
Hi,
[ruby-core:18951] Re: A stupid question...
On Sep 25, 2008, at 09:17 , Dave Thomas wrote:
> Just what was wrong with Test::Unit? Sure, it was slightly bloated.
> But it seemed to work.
Saying Test::Unit was slightly bloated is like saying RDoc/ri is an
easy and fun package to maintain. You gave up RDoc/ri because you
didn't want to maintain it anymore and Nathaniel did the same.
miniunit
lib loc 646 total
test loc 905 total
totl loc 1551 total
flog = 711.105369946191
test/unit
lib loc 3571 total
test loc 2464 total
totl loc 6035 total
flog = 3103.27739878118
(numbers not totally current but very close)
Time to run 10,000 passing tests:
test/unit : 0.782527s
miniunit v1.2.1 : 0.340559s
miniunit v1.3.0 : 0.467056s
Time to run 10,000 failing tests:
test/unit : 12.205469s
miniunit v1.2.1 : 0.839336s
miniunit v1.3.0 : 1.133835s
(numbers are completely up to date)
> Why not remove mini/xxx for now and package it instead as a gem. Let
> people play with it for a while, and let it stabilize. Then consider
> integrating it into a future Ruby release.
This makes me feel like I've been standing in the corner talking to
myself this whole damn time:
2006-10-30 - miniunit 1.0 released as a gem
2007-11-08 - miniunit 1.1 and proposed it to ruby-core [13528]
2007-11-16 - Akira approved miniunit in core [13586]
2008-06-09 - miniunit 1.2 released
2008-06-11 - I asked for approval _again_ [17200]
2008-06-16 - approved by matz [17275]
2008-06-16 - kouhei pipes up with some good concerns [17276]
2008-06-17 - miniunit 1.2.1 released
2008-07-13 - kouhei withdraws his objections [17753]
I've mailed core. I've mailed talk. I've released gems. I've blogged...
I've asked for feedback every way I know how trying to reduce pain and
complications for when it came time to integrate into 1.9. Kouhei was
the only one to step up with serious objections.
I know I sound like a broken record on this topic, but I'm really sick
of all the bloat that comes along in ruby. For a language well known
for its elegance and expressiveness, stdlib does a horrid job of
leading the way as a shining example of this. How many options
processors do we need? (a: 2. 1 actually got removed from 1.8) How
many copies of a half busted ruby parser do we need? (2: irb & rdoc -
neither have been reengineered to use ripper). How many test
frameworks do we need??? TWO apparently. runit is still in 1.9. ftools
vs fileutils... etc etc etc etc...
I'm trying my best to actively combat this bloat and get things back
to the lithe elegance that I fell in love with back in 2000. The sad
thing is, every single example above was true back in 2000... we've
gone 8 years and still haven't had a serious overhaul on stdlib. The
fact that there is no lib/deprecate.rb should be evidence enough. I
love ruby, but I worry that the weight of the bloat is pulling itself
down.