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[#51792] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7768][Open] Inherited Array class missing — "england (Roman Ivanilov)" <englandpost@...>

14 messages 2013/02/01

[#51834] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7780][Open] Marshal & YAML should deserialize only basic types by default. — "marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)" <ruby-core@...>

19 messages 2013/02/04

[#51897] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7791][Open] Let symbols be garbage collected — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>

64 messages 2013/02/06
[#51899] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7791][Feedback] Let symbols be garbage collected — "shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe)" <shyouhei@...> 2013/02/06

[#51909] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #7791][Feedback] Let symbols be garbage collected — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2013/02/06

(2013/02/06 22:50), shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe) wrote:

[#51898] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7792][Open] Make symbols and strings the same thing — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>

86 messages 2013/02/06
[#51914] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7792] Make symbols and strings the same thing — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...> 2013/02/06

[#51916] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #7792] Make symbols and strings the same thing — Yorick Peterse <yorickpeterse@...> 2013/02/06

You don't need to hijack any code for it, you'd just use it as

[#51933] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7793][Open] New methods on Hash — "dsisnero (Dominic Sisneros)" <dsisnero@...>

20 messages 2013/02/06

[#51965] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7795][Open] Symbol.defined? and/or to_existing_symbol — "Student (Nathan Zook)" <blogger@...>

13 messages 2013/02/07

[#51977] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7797][Open] Hash should be renamed to StrictHash and a new Hash should be created to behave like AS HashWithIndifferentAccess — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>

22 messages 2013/02/07

[#52042] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7805][Open] ruby 2.0rc2 core on solaris — "groenveld@... (John Groenveld)" <groenveld@...>

23 messages 2013/02/08

[#52049] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7807][Open] [PATCH] Remove duplicated load paths when empty version string is configured — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch)" <v.ondruch@...>

9 messages 2013/02/08

[#52075] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7816][Open] Don't invalidate method caches when defining a new method on a class without subclasses — "charliesome (Charlie Somerville)" <charlie@...>

17 messages 2013/02/09

[#52077] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7817][Open] (Unable to compile Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 on OSX (clang version 2.1) — "injekt (Lee Jarvis)" <ljjarvis@...>

10 messages 2013/02/09

[#52087] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7820][Assigned] Let's decide Ruby 2.0 supported platform list — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <mame@...>

15 messages 2013/02/10

[#52130] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7829][Open] Rounding error in Ruby Time — "loirotte (Philippe Dosch)" <loirotte@...>

25 messages 2013/02/11
[#52579] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7829] Rounding error in Ruby Time — "loirotte (Philippe Dosch)" <loirotte@...> 2013/02/20

[#52586] Re: [ruby-trunk - Bug #7829] Rounding error in Ruby Time — David MacMahon <davidm@...> 2013/02/20

[#52131] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7830][Open] Ruby packages should not build with -Werror when distributed — "kremenek (Ted Kremenek)" <kremenek@...>

21 messages 2013/02/11

[#52134] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7831][Open] Net::HTTP does not allow users to handle Content-Encoding in responses like 1.x — "drbrain (Eric Hodel)" <drbrain@...7.net>

10 messages 2013/02/11

[#52160] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7836][Open] Need a way to get Method and UnboundMethod objects to methods overridden by prepended modules — "banister (john mair)" <jrmair@...>

12 messages 2013/02/12

[#52165] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7839][Open] Symbol.freeze_symbols — "tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson)" <aaron@...>

23 messages 2013/02/12

[#52206] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7842][Assigned] An alias of a "prepend"ed method skips the original method when calling super — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <mame@...>

15 messages 2013/02/13

[#52215] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7845][Open] Strip doesn't handle unicode space characters in ruby 1.9.2 & 1.9.3 (does in 1.9.1) — "timothyg56 (Timothy Garnett)" <timothyg@...>

18 messages 2013/02/13

[#52267] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7854][Open] New method Symbol[string] — "Student (Nathan Zook)" <blogger@...>

22 messages 2013/02/14

[#52296] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7860][Open] Passing --libdir to ./configure causes Gem.ruby to point to an incorrect ruby interpreter path — "cwgem (Chris White)" <cwprogram@...>

11 messages 2013/02/15

[#52395] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7874][Open] multiarch support enhancements — "terceiro (Antonio Terceiro)" <terceiro@...>

16 messages 2013/02/17

[#52513] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7882][Open] Allow rescue/else/ensure in do..end — "charliesome (Charlie Somerville)" <charlie@...>

11 messages 2013/02/19

[#52514] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7883][Open] Add Regex#to_proc — "rklemme (Robert Klemme)" <shortcutter@...>

15 messages 2013/02/19

[#52537] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7886][Open] Not recognizing unix group permissions for Mac OS X (Mountain Lion) Active Directory (AD) mobile accounts — "afazio (Alfred Fazio)" <alfred.fazio@...>

12 messages 2013/02/19

[#52596] [CommonRuby - Feature #7895][Open] Exception#backtrace_locations to go with Thread#backtrace_locations and Kernel#caller_locations — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

18 messages 2013/02/20

[#52614] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7897][Open] rubygems 2.0 has an incompatibility about installation of extension libraries if gem package does not contain lib directory — "mrkn (Kenta Murata)" <muraken@...>

8 messages 2013/02/21

[#52727] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7918][Open] Create Signal.in_trap?() — "kosaki (Motohiro KOSAKI)" <kosaki.motohiro@...>

10 messages 2013/02/23

[#52742] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7921][Assigned] Cross-compiling ruby_2_0_0 to Windows is failing (rb_w32_pow) — "luislavena (Luis Lavena)" <luislavena@...>

19 messages 2013/02/23

[#52875] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7956][Open] Install fail with RVM — Sega100500 (Сергей Е) <Sergey.V.Ezhov@...>

14 messages 2013/02/25

[#52877] Any documentation about debugging in Ruby 2.0.0 — Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <rr.rosas@...>

Hi, I couldn't find how to debug Ruby 2.0.0 programs, but only a few

14 messages 2013/02/25
[#52880] Re: Any documentation about debugging in Ruby 2.0.0 — Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@...> 2013/02/25

On Monday, February 25, 2013, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:

[#52883] Re: Any documentation about debugging in Ruby 2.0.0 — Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <rr.rosas@...> 2013/02/25

Em 25-02-2013 10:47, Jeremy Kemper escreveu:

[#52886] Re: Any documentation about debugging in Ruby 2.0.0 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2013/02/25

(2013/02/26 0:22), Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:

[#52890] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7958][Open] include FileUtils::Verbose gives NoMethodError when installing files with a different mode — "drbrain (Eric Hodel)" <drbrain@...7.net>

12 messages 2013/02/25

[#52893] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7959][Open] configure contains non-portable shell code — "jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)" <merch-redmine@...>

12 messages 2013/02/25

[#52936] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7968][Open] Poor UDPSocket#send performance in ruby 2.0.0 on windows — "cs96and (Alan Davies)" <alan.n.davies@...>

10 messages 2013/02/26

[#52997] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7978][Open] boolean to_i — "alexeymuranov (Alexey Muranov)" <redmine@...>

14 messages 2013/02/27

[#53017] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7982][Open] rb_raise segfaults on %lli format with (0xffffffff + 1) — "erik.s.chang (Erik Chang)" <erik.s.chang@...>

10 messages 2013/02/28

[#53025] [Backport 200 - Backport #7984][Open] Severe speed issues in 2.0.0 compiled with Clang — "jcole1989 (James Coleman)" <jtc331@...>

13 messages 2013/02/28

[ruby-core:52282] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7791] Let symbols be garbage collected

From: "marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2013-02-15 06:25:40 UTC
List: ruby-core #52282
Issue #7791 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


I don't think the goal is to simplify the life of ruby-core people.

I feel the goal is to have the best language possible be reasonably secure by default.

It would be sad if Ruby and its community suffered because of a reputation of insecurity, especially an insecurity by design that ruby-core won't address.

Maybe it will take a corporate sponsorship and a couple of weeks (months?) of full time work for someone to resolve the issue, but I don't see a fundamental reason why it couldn't be done.
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Feature #7791: Let symbols be garbage collected
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/7791#change-36309

Author: rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)
Status: Feedback
Priority: Normal
Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Category: core
Target version: next minor


Lots of Denial-of-Service security vulnerabilities exploited in Ruby programs rely on symbols not being collected by garbage collector.

Ideally I'd prefer symbols and strings to behave exactly the same being just alternate ways of writing strings but I'll let this to another ticket.

This one simply asks for symbols to be allowed to be garbage collected when low on memory. Maybe one could set up some up-limit memory constraints dedicated to storing symbols. That way, the most accessed symbols would remain in that memory region and the least used ones would be reclaimed when the memory for symbols is over and a new symbol is created.

Or you could just allow symbols to be garbage collected any time. Any reasons why this would be a bad idea? Any performance benchmark demonstrating how using symbols instead of strings would make a real-world software perform much better?

Currently I only see symbols slowing down processing because people don't want to worry about it and will often use something like ActiveSupport Hash#with_indifferent_access or some other method to convert a string to symbol or vice versa...


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