[ruby-core:52289] Re: p385 breaks bakward compatibility

Dne p叩tek, 15. 炭nora 2013 12:20:18 UTC+1 Alex Chaffee napsal(a):
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> 1. Your Gemfile doesn't specify any sources. If it did, Bundler could find 
> whatever version of rdoc it needs.  Read 
> http://gembundler.com/man/gemfile.5.html 
>
Not sure what is the relevance here
 

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> 2. Your Gemfile.lock file is probably locking to a version of rdoc that 
> doesn't exist in your new installation of Ruby. Do "bundle update" to reset 
> your Gemfile.lock. 
>

Clearly not, because I update Ruby in the meantime, therefor RDoc 3.9.4 
were replaced by RDoc 3.9.5, that is the point. I don't want to run bundle 
update. Note that I am speaking as of packager of Ruby on Fedora. There is 
no way for me to know where are you application installed and how to call 
"bundle update" on them.
 

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> 3. Updating Ruby is not guaranteed to copy over old gems into your new 
> installation. RVM can be told to do this but it appears that yum does not. 
>

This is irrelevant. RDoc is bundled in Ruby and I worked with plain Ruby 
installation. 

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> 4. My version of Bundler warns me when my Gemfile has no sources when I do 
> "bundle install". Since you never ran "bundle install" (despite it clearly 
> telling you to) I have no idea if you're using the latest version. Do "gem 
> update bundler" to install the latest. 
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> 5. Dot releases are not guaranteed not to break anything. Read semver.orgfor one (popular, but not mandatory) interpretation of what release numbers 
> should promise. 
>

Yes, semver guarantees that, but bundler does not reflect that, since the 
versions are locked. I have to do something more, such as "bundle update" 
to actually update my application
 

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> 6. Gems are kind of complicated, but once you understand the basics, 
> they're pretty easy to use. I see no bug here, just you misunderstanding 
> the tools. 
>

I know what gems are ... but you live just in gems world. I live in the 
world where gems are repackaged and somebody relies that nothing breaks due 
to update and I don't have to run some additional commands due to update.
 

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> 7. You do realize what version numbers are for, right? Version numbers 
> identify versions. If the code changes, even to fix a bug, it's not the 
> same code, which means it's a different version. So it needs a new version 
> number. 
>

Yes, I do realize. And therefore Bundler should respect ~> dependency and 
automatically pickup newer version, not just rely on Gemfile.lock.


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