[#17055] Set#map! vs. map — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi --

23 messages 2008/06/03

[#17084] Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2008/06/03
[#17168] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/06/09

Akinori MUSHA wrote:

[#17173] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Flanagan <david@davidflanagan.com> wrote:

[#17192] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@bitsweat.net> wrote:

[#17162] Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

44 messages 2008/06/09
[#17254] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/06/15

Hi,

[#17273] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/16

[#17276] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/16

Hi,

[#17312] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/18

[#17346] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/19

Hi,

[#17167] Mail count in Subject — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

20 messages 2008/06/09
[#17169] Re: Mail count in Subject — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...> 2008/06/09

All,

[#17171] Re: Mail count in Subject — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/10

Warren Brown wrote:

[#17327] A plea for a release process — Brian Ford <brixen@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/06/18

[#17377] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2008/06/23

[#17393] URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "Igal Koshevoy" <igal@...>

All currently available versions of MRI Ruby are either vulnerable to

104 messages 2008/06/24
[#17416] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Sorry for a late reply but I think I've fixed this issue. Can someone

[#17417] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/28

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17419] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17422] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17426] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17438] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17499] We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/02

Hello, I think current 1.8.6/1.8.7 is stable than p230/p22, so I decided

[#17504] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/02

Hi Urabe,

[#17506] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/02

Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17521] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/03

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#17544] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17545] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/03

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17806] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/07/16

On 02/07/2008, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

[#17851] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/07/19

In article <a5d587fb0807160533r4534fabdg257b4a9523b15f1e@mail.gmail.com>,

[#17852] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17855] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:18:05PM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17857] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17860] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:43:46AM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17939] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Kurt Stephens <ks@...> 2008/07/24

When will we see a new 1.8.6 release?

[#17940] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17941] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17945] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:04:15AM +0900, Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17946] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 04:35:43AM +0900, Jeremy Henty wrote:

[#17947] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/24

Jeremy,

[#17948] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/25

Hi,

[#17953] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Daniel Luz" <dev@...> 2008/07/25

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#17423] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/06/29

In article <48662E99.7030508@pragmaticraft.com>,

[#17424] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/06/29

[#17429] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Federico Builes wrote:

[#17431] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17427] 1.8 release management — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hi,

43 messages 2008/06/29
[#17455] Re: 1.8 release management — Stephen Bannasch <stephen.bannasch@...> 2008/06/30

Let me describe some simple questions about Ruby 1.8.6 that are not

[#17458] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/30

For what I know,

[#17547] Re: 1.8 release management — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2008/07/03

On 6/30/08, Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#17549] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:

[#17555] Re: 1.8 release management — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2008/07/03

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Igal Koshevoy <igal@pragmaticraft.com> wrote:

[#17585] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Luis Lavena wrote:

[#17588] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17589] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17591] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17593] Re: 1.8 release management — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/04

Hi,

Re: Set#map! vs. map

From: "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>
Date: 2008-06-03 12:18:39 UTC
List: ruby-core #17068
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:33 AM, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

> Hi --
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> In message "Re: Set#map! vs. map"
>>   on Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:13:07 +0900, "David A. Black" <dblack@rubypal.com>
>> writes:
>>
>> |I'm just wondering whether it would make more sense for Set to have a
>> |#map method that returned a set, rather than an array, as long as that
>> |behavior is considered meaningful (as it appears to be since that's
>> |how Set#map! is working). Otherwise that aspect of the map/map!
>> |distinction seems kind of arbitrary.
>>
>> Do you want to make a new rule that map should return the object of
>> the same class as the receiver?  If so, what do you think collect
>> (currently map's alias) should return?
>>
>
> I wasn't thinking of a general rule, just wondering about the case of
> Set.


It's probably completely irrelevant to Ruby, but in Smalltalk the collect
method in general returns an instance of the same class as the receiver.
Most collection class implementations of collect use 'self species new' to
instantiate the result, where the species method returns the class to be
used. The general species method is implemented as '^self class', which
means that classes which don't override it will return an instance of their
own class.

However, in contrast to Ruby which uses Array as a kind of
"swiss-army-knife" collection class, with a few specialized collection
classes, Smalltalk has a fairly rich collection of collection classes so it
probably makes more sense for Smalltalk to do what it does.


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

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