[#17055] Set#map! vs. map — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi --

23 messages 2008/06/03

[#17084] Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2008/06/03
[#17168] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/06/09

Akinori MUSHA wrote:

[#17173] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Flanagan <david@davidflanagan.com> wrote:

[#17192] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@bitsweat.net> wrote:

[#17162] Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

44 messages 2008/06/09
[#17254] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/06/15

Hi,

[#17273] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/16

[#17276] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/16

Hi,

[#17312] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/18

[#17346] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/19

Hi,

[#17167] Mail count in Subject — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

20 messages 2008/06/09
[#17169] Re: Mail count in Subject — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...> 2008/06/09

All,

[#17171] Re: Mail count in Subject — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/10

Warren Brown wrote:

[#17327] A plea for a release process — Brian Ford <brixen@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/06/18

[#17377] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2008/06/23

[#17393] URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "Igal Koshevoy" <igal@...>

All currently available versions of MRI Ruby are either vulnerable to

104 messages 2008/06/24
[#17416] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Sorry for a late reply but I think I've fixed this issue. Can someone

[#17417] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/28

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17419] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17422] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17426] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17438] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17499] We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/02

Hello, I think current 1.8.6/1.8.7 is stable than p230/p22, so I decided

[#17504] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/02

Hi Urabe,

[#17506] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/02

Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17521] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/03

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#17544] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17545] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/03

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17806] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/07/16

On 02/07/2008, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

[#17851] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/07/19

In article <a5d587fb0807160533r4534fabdg257b4a9523b15f1e@mail.gmail.com>,

[#17852] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17855] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:18:05PM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17857] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17860] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:43:46AM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17939] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Kurt Stephens <ks@...> 2008/07/24

When will we see a new 1.8.6 release?

[#17940] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17941] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17945] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:04:15AM +0900, Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17946] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 04:35:43AM +0900, Jeremy Henty wrote:

[#17947] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/24

Jeremy,

[#17948] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/25

Hi,

[#17953] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Daniel Luz" <dev@...> 2008/07/25

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#17423] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/06/29

In article <48662E99.7030508@pragmaticraft.com>,

[#17424] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/06/29

[#17429] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Federico Builes wrote:

[#17431] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17427] 1.8 release management — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hi,

43 messages 2008/06/29
[#17455] Re: 1.8 release management — Stephen Bannasch <stephen.bannasch@...> 2008/06/30

Let me describe some simple questions about Ruby 1.8.6 that are not

[#17458] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/30

For what I know,

[#17547] Re: 1.8 release management — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2008/07/03

On 6/30/08, Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#17549] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:

[#17555] Re: 1.8 release management — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2008/07/03

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Igal Koshevoy <igal@pragmaticraft.com> wrote:

[#17585] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Luis Lavena wrote:

[#17588] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17589] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17591] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17593] Re: 1.8 release management — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/04

Hi,

Re: Set#map! vs. map

From: "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Date: 2008-06-03 09:01:54 UTC
List: ruby-core #17065
Hi --

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In message "Re: Set#map! vs. map"
>    on Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:33:02 +0900, "David A. Black" <dblack@rubypal.com> writes:
>
> |> Do you want to make a new rule that map should return the object of
> |> the same class as the receiver?  If so, what do you think collect
> |> (currently map's alias) should return?
> |
> |I wasn't thinking of a general rule, just wondering about the case of
> |Set.
>
> So, with making a general rule in your mind, what do you think?

I don't think map and collect should become different from each other;
it would be too hard to remember which is which. Also, I don't think
map could always return an object of the same class -- for example,
it wouldn't make sense with Range or IO.

What got me thinking about the possibility of a Set#map method,
returning a set, was just the fact that Set#map! exists at all (and
that it's the only map! other than Array#map!). That suggests that
sets are the only class, other than array, where a mapping back to the
class is considered possible, and that in turn made me wonder whether
a set was considered close enough to an array, in its interface, to
satisfy the requirements Ara was talking about (the polymorphic API).

So... I guess the general rule should either be that map always
returns an array, or that there's some minimum API that has to be
satisfied by the original class in order for it to work as the return
value of a mapping. That might be more trouble than it's worth,
though. Or maybe a new method, like map_back or something, to be
implemented by enumerable classes that *can* map back to their own
class.


David

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