[#17055] Set#map! vs. map — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi --

23 messages 2008/06/03

[#17084] Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2008/06/03
[#17168] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/06/09

Akinori MUSHA wrote:

[#17173] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Flanagan <david@davidflanagan.com> wrote:

[#17192] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@bitsweat.net> wrote:

[#17162] Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

44 messages 2008/06/09
[#17254] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/06/15

Hi,

[#17273] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/16

[#17276] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/16

Hi,

[#17312] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/18

[#17346] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/19

Hi,

[#17167] Mail count in Subject — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

20 messages 2008/06/09
[#17169] Re: Mail count in Subject — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...> 2008/06/09

All,

[#17171] Re: Mail count in Subject — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/10

Warren Brown wrote:

[#17327] A plea for a release process — Brian Ford <brixen@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/06/18

[#17377] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2008/06/23

[#17393] URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "Igal Koshevoy" <igal@...>

All currently available versions of MRI Ruby are either vulnerable to

104 messages 2008/06/24
[#17416] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Sorry for a late reply but I think I've fixed this issue. Can someone

[#17417] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/28

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17419] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17422] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17426] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17438] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17499] We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/02

Hello, I think current 1.8.6/1.8.7 is stable than p230/p22, so I decided

[#17504] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/02

Hi Urabe,

[#17506] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/02

Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17521] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/03

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#17544] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17545] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/03

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17806] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/07/16

On 02/07/2008, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

[#17851] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/07/19

In article <a5d587fb0807160533r4534fabdg257b4a9523b15f1e@mail.gmail.com>,

[#17852] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17855] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:18:05PM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17857] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17860] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:43:46AM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17939] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Kurt Stephens <ks@...> 2008/07/24

When will we see a new 1.8.6 release?

[#17940] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17941] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17945] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:04:15AM +0900, Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17946] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 04:35:43AM +0900, Jeremy Henty wrote:

[#17947] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/24

Jeremy,

[#17948] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/25

Hi,

[#17953] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Daniel Luz" <dev@...> 2008/07/25

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#17423] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/06/29

In article <48662E99.7030508@pragmaticraft.com>,

[#17424] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/06/29

[#17429] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Federico Builes wrote:

[#17431] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17427] 1.8 release management — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hi,

43 messages 2008/06/29
[#17455] Re: 1.8 release management — Stephen Bannasch <stephen.bannasch@...> 2008/06/30

Let me describe some simple questions about Ruby 1.8.6 that are not

[#17458] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/30

For what I know,

[#17547] Re: 1.8 release management — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2008/07/03

On 6/30/08, Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#17549] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:

[#17555] Re: 1.8 release management — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2008/07/03

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Igal Koshevoy <igal@pragmaticraft.com> wrote:

[#17585] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Luis Lavena wrote:

[#17588] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17589] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17591] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17593] Re: 1.8 release management — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/04

Hi,

[ruby-core:17428] Re: 1.8 release management

From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...>
Date: 2008-06-29 09:33:07 UTC
List: ruby-core #17428
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> = release management
> 
> From 1.8.6, we have reformed our release management.  Ruby 1.8 release
> manager is Akinori MUSHA <knu at iDaemons.org>.  He is responsible for
> the 1.8 head release (i.e. 1.8.7 right now).  Besides that, we
> maintain two prior versions for production maintenance (1.8.5 and
> 1.8.6 now).  Shouhei URABE <shyouhei at ruby-lang.org> is responsible
> for those versions.  We don't think we need to fix this process.

As I understand it, maintenance has been dropped for 1.8.5. I doubt if 
that has a serious impact except for those running servers on old Linux 
distros that shipped with 1.8.5. They'll clearly have to upgrade to 1.8.6.

But I think the syntactic and semantic differences between 1.8.7 and 
1.8.6 are a problem for a number of reasons:

1. The vast majority of Ruby 1.8 users are on 1.8.6.
2. Most of the other implementations are using the 1.8.6 syntax and 
semantics as their base.
3. It's difficult for most Linux distros to maintain two 1.8.x versions.
4. I think "backporting" features from 1.9 takes resources and attention 
away from 1.9.

This last reason is actually my main concern. How are we going to get 
people to use 1.9? How are we going to evolve to 2.0? I personally will 
load 1.8.7 only if Gentoo makes it the default Ruby 1.8. I don't see the 
point in testing it, or coding to it, when I can test and code to 1.9.


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