[#17055] Set#map! vs. map — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi --

23 messages 2008/06/03

[#17084] Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Hi,

36 messages 2008/06/03
[#17168] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/06/09

Akinori MUSHA wrote:

[#17173] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Jeremy Kemper" <jeremy@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Flanagan <david@davidflanagan.com> wrote:

[#17192] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...> 2008/06/10

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@bitsweat.net> wrote:

[#17162] Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

44 messages 2008/06/09
[#17254] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2008/06/15

Hi,

[#17273] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/16

[#17276] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/16

Hi,

[#17312] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/18

[#17346] Re: Release Plan: Ruby 1.9.0-2 — Kouhei Sutou <kou@...> 2008/06/19

Hi,

[#17167] Mail count in Subject — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

20 messages 2008/06/09
[#17169] Re: Mail count in Subject — "Warren Brown" <warrenb@...> 2008/06/09

All,

[#17171] Re: Mail count in Subject — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/10

Warren Brown wrote:

[#17327] A plea for a release process — Brian Ford <brixen@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/06/18

[#17377] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2008/06/23

[#17393] URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "Igal Koshevoy" <igal@...>

All currently available versions of MRI Ruby are either vulnerable to

104 messages 2008/06/24
[#17416] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Sorry for a late reply but I think I've fixed this issue. Can someone

[#17417] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/28

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17419] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/28

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17422] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17426] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17438] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17499] We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/02

Hello, I think current 1.8.6/1.8.7 is stable than p230/p22, so I decided

[#17504] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/02

Hi Urabe,

[#17506] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/02

Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17521] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/03

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#17544] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17545] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/07/03

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17806] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Michal Suchanek" <hramrach@...> 2008/07/16

On 02/07/2008, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@sun.com> wrote:

[#17851] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/07/19

In article <a5d587fb0807160533r4534fabdg257b4a9523b15f1e@mail.gmail.com>,

[#17852] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17855] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 02:18:05PM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17857] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/19

[#17860] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/19

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:43:46AM +0900, Federico Builes wrote:

[#17939] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Kurt Stephens <ks@...> 2008/07/24

When will we see a new 1.8.6 release?

[#17940] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17941] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/24

Hi,

[#17945] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:04:15AM +0900, Vladimir Sizikov wrote:

[#17946] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...> 2008/07/24

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 04:35:43AM +0900, Jeremy Henty wrote:

[#17947] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/07/24

Jeremy,

[#17948] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/07/25

Hi,

[#17953] Re: We'll release 1.8.6/1.8.7 this Friday — "Daniel Luz" <dev@...> 2008/07/25

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org>

[#17423] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2008/06/29

In article <48662E99.7030508@pragmaticraft.com>,

[#17424] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2008/06/29

[#17429] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/29

Federico Builes wrote:

[#17431] Re: URGENT: Possible fixes for segfaults and vulnerabilities available for review in ruby-talk — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/06/29

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17427] 1.8 release management — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

Hi,

43 messages 2008/06/29
[#17455] Re: 1.8 release management — Stephen Bannasch <stephen.bannasch@...> 2008/06/30

Let me describe some simple questions about Ruby 1.8.6 that are not

[#17458] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/06/30

For what I know,

[#17547] Re: 1.8 release management — "Wilson Bilkovich" <wilsonb@...> 2008/07/03

On 6/30/08, Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@ruby-lang.org> wrote:

[#17549] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/03

Wilson Bilkovich wrote:

[#17555] Re: 1.8 release management — "Luis Lavena" <luislavena@...> 2008/07/03

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Igal Koshevoy <igal@pragmaticraft.com> wrote:

[#17585] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Luis Lavena wrote:

[#17588] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17589] Re: 1.8 release management — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...> 2008/07/04

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#17591] Re: 1.8 release management — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/07/04

Urabe Shyouhei wrote:

[#17593] Re: 1.8 release management — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/07/04

Hi,

[ruby-core:17174] Re: Enumerable::Enumerator#with_memo

From: "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>
Date: 2008-06-10 06:11:41 UTC
List: ruby-core #17174
At Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:11:38 +0900,
David Flanagan wrote:
> Akinori MUSHA wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Earlier today I added a new instance method named `with_memo' to
> > Enumerable::Enumerator, but I'm not 100% sure if the name fits the
> > function.
>
> I'd like to try to revive this thread, if I can.  This seems to me an
> important new method in a core part of the Ruby platform and I'm quite
> surprised that we haven't heard more debate from the usually more
> vocal ruby-core community.
>
> I don't like the name with_memo.  Rick DeNatale proposed "returning"
> instead, and I like that better than with_memo.  I've also proposed a
> separate, related method named "adding" that does not return its
> argument.  (But that proposal isn't fully thought out, since I haven't
> convinced myself what a more useful return value would be.)

I thought up the name `with_memo' by analogy to with_index, adding a
memo object instead of an index.  The problem would be that it doesn't
say at all that it returns self.  For `returning', the opposite would
apply.  It would be nice if there is a name that implies both.

> Anyway, I suspect that the silence in this case means that the thread
> has been overlooked and not that no one really cares about the name of
> this method.  This method has just been added into 1.9.  I'd suggest
> that whatever name it has when 1.9.0-2 is released in a couple of
> weeks ought to be the final name. So we don't have much time to debate
> this and try to get it right.

I suggest everyone with some interest in the method use it and write
some piece of code, get hinted and come up with a better name.

If the debate seems to reach nowhere, I will even think withdrawing
the method itself before 1.9.0-2.

--
Akinori MUSHA / http://akinori.org/

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