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[ruby-core:100915] [Ruby master Feature#17278] On-demand sharing of constants for Ractor
From:
daniel@...42.com
Date:
2020-11-17 19:04:38 UTC
List:
ruby-core #100915
Issue #17278 has been updated by Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme).
In #17323#note-5, ko1 mentioned there is a possibility to provide "fork" model. So I tried thinking if it could apply here.
We can imagine that accessing an auto-shareable constant
a) from non-main ractor: is made shareable
b) from main ractor: is made shareable, and then a deep-dup copy is made and set aside for use for main ractor only
In this case it's no longer non-deterministic, but there are other tradeoffs. Memory usage is double. Most importantly, the constant may have a diverging value in the main ractor. Let's say you have `COUNTERS = Hash.new(0)` and the counters are only incremented in the main ractor; but from the perspective of the non-main ractors the counters would always be zero. I would find this _very_ unintuitive, and likely very hard to debug.
I think the forking model could work for class variables because it's less surprising if a _variable_ has a different value in different contexts.
In the end I remain convinced the original model I proposed is best. To a certain extent, non-deterministic behavior is a normal part of parallelism. For example in a producer/consumer architecture, if 2 producers generate each 1M 'A's and 1M 'B's, the consumer will see them in a non-deterministic order. No one would claim that's a problem. It's the same thing for this; the _order_ may be non-deterministic (iif there's a race condition) but the end result is identical: an error.
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Feature #17278: On-demand sharing of constants for Ractor
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17278#change-88567
* Author: Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)
* Status: Feedback
* Priority: Normal
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### Description
This proposal aims to reduce (but not eliminate) the need for freezing/sharing boilerplate code needed by ractors.
```ruby
A = [1, [2, [3, 4]]]
H = {a: "a"}
Ractor.new do
p A #A is not actually modified anywhere, so ok
end.take
H[:b] = "b" #H was never touched by ractor, so ok
```
## Background
Ractors require objects to be preemptively deep-frozen in order to be shared between ractors. This has an especially visible and restrictive effect on globals and constants. I tried thinking of a different way, and maybe I found one. So please allow me to humbly present this possibility.
## Proposal
A constant would be by default in a "auto-shareable" state (A) which can change atomically to either
(B) "non-shareable" if it is modified by the main ractor
(C) "shareable" (and frozen) if it is accessed by a non-main ractor
In detail:
1. When an object is assigned to a constant, it is added to a list of ractor-reachable objects
2. When the first ractor is created, the objects in that list are recursively marked with FL_AUTOSHARE
* after this point, constant assignments result directly in FL_AUTOSHARE
3. In the main ractor, a call to `rb_check_frozen` (meaning the object is being modified) will
1. if FL_AUTOSHARE is set (state A)
* [with ractor lock]
* unless object is shareable
* unset FL_AUTOSHARE (state B)
2. raise error if frozen
* ideally with different message if object has FL_SHAREABLE
4. When a non-main ractor accesses a non-shareable constant
1. if object referenced by constant has FL_AUTOSHARE set (state A)
* [with ractor lock]
* if all objects recursively are still marked with FL_AUTOSHARE
* make_shareable (state C)
* else
* unset top objects's FL_AUTOSHARE (state B)
2. raise error if not shareable
## Result
So in the case that these 2 things happen in parallel:
1) main ractor modifies content of constant X
2) non-main ractor accesses constant X
There are 2 possible outcomes:
a) main ractor error "can't modify frozen/shared object"
b) non-main ractor error "can not access non-shareable objects in constant X"
## Benefits
In the normal case where non-frozen constants are left untouched after being assigned, this allows to skip a lot of `.freeze` or `Ractor.make_shareable` or `# shareable_constant_value: true` boilerplate.
When you get the error "can not access non-sharable objects in constant X by non-main Ractor", first you have to make that constant X shareable. Then this can trigger a secondary error that X is frozen, that you also have to debug. This way cuts the debugging in half by skipping directly to the FrozenError.
## Downsides
When you get the error "can not access non-sharable objects in constant X by non-main Ractor" you may want to solve the issue by e.g. copying the constant X rather than freezing it. This way makes it slightly harder to find where X is being accessed in the non-main ractor.
In the case of conflict, whether the error occurs in the main ractor or the non-main ractor can be non-deterministic.
## Applicability
This probably applies as well to global variables, class variables, and class instance variables.
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