[#34722] cgi.rb の form の挙動 — FUJIOKA Takeyuki <fujioka@...>

藤岡です。

18 messages 2002/04/02

[#34724] 「たのしい Ruby 」 — Shin-ichiro HARA <sinara@...>

原(信)です。

18 messages 2002/04/02
[#34728] Re: 「たのしい Ruby 」 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2002/04/02

まつもと ゆきひろです

[#34746] Re: 「たのしい Ruby 」 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...> 2002/04/02

高橋征義です。

[#34752] Re: 「たのしい Ruby 」 — Shin-ichiro HARA <sinara@...> 2002/04/03

原(信)です。

[#34842] [ann] Web 家計簿(β版)リリース — 堀川 久 <vzw00011@...>

こんにちは。

18 messages 2002/04/07
[#34869] Re: [ann] Web 家計簿(β版)リリース — Nobuhide Kanagawa <nobuhide@...> 2002/04/11

こんばんわ!

[#34885] creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...>

立石です.

38 messages 2002/04/13
[#34891] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — nobu.nakada@... 2002/04/14

なかだです。

[#34892] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...> 2002/04/14

At Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:00:12 +0900,

[#34894] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — nobu.nakada@... 2002/04/14

なかだです。

[#34896] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...> 2002/04/14

At Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:08:47 +0900,

[#34899] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2002/04/15

まつもと ゆきひろです

[#34901] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...> 2002/04/15

At Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:51:05 +0900,

[#34902] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2002/04/15

まつもと ゆきひろです

[#34903] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...> 2002/04/15

At Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:53:53 +0900,

[#34904] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2002/04/15

まつもと ゆきひろです

[#34910] Re: creating a scope / anonymous module — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...> 2002/04/15

At Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:07:57 +0900,

[#34958] windows 版 ruby でシステムコマンドが動かない — "jazzski _comp" <jazzski_comp@...>

はじめてrubyを使うのですが、windows版(cygwin版1.6.1)で下記のように

12 messages 2002/04/23

[ruby-list:34798] Re: スクリプティング言語における GPL

From: shudo@...
Date: 2002-04-04 09:31:23 UTC
List: ruby-list #34798
Walrus, Ruby の場合にどうなるか僕は判断できませんが,参考までに...

From: "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@iDaemons.org>

>  GPL という「宣言」を厳格に読むと、静的リンクだろうが動的リンク
> だろうが、スクリプト言語だろうがコンパイラ言語だろうが、(法的な
> 有効性は別として)
>
> 	実行時にリンクして使えば染まります
>
> という主張であるのは確かだと思います。

そう思います.

例えば,RMS の考えでは,

  Kaffe (GNU GPL な Java 仮想マシン + クラスライブラリ) 上で
  GNU GPL 非コンパチな Java プログラムを実行することはできない

らしいです.(添付メール参照)
キビシ〜!と思いました.

>  私は、スクリプト言語で書かれたライブラリを require などして利用
> するのは動的リンク以外の何物でもないと思います。名前(シンボル)で
> 参照する(呼ぶ)という点で何ら変わりませんから。

Ruby の require が GNU GPL の言うリンクにあたるかどうかは,判りません.
あたりそうな気はしてます.

Kazuyuki Shudo/首藤一幸   私をたばねないで あらせいとうの花のように
  shudo@computer.org   http://www.shudo.net/
Received: from rpsmtp2.aist.go.jp
        by mail01.aist.go.jp  with ESMTP id fAGMR2J15518
        for <k.shudou@aist.go.jp>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:27:02 +0900 (JST)
        env-from (classpath-admin@gnu.org)
Received: from mx2.aist.go.jp
        by rpsmtp2.aist.go.jp  with ESMTP id fAGMR1q14324
        for <k.shudou@aist.go.jp>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:27:01 +0900 (JST)
        env-from (classpath-admin@gnu.org)
Received: from totoro.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp
	by mx2.aist.go.jp  with ESMTP id fAGMR1H24144
	for <k.shudou@aist.go.jp>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:27:01 +0900 (JST)
	env-from (classpath-admin@gnu.org)
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (we-refuse-to-spy-on-our-users@fencepost.gnu.org [199.232.76.164])
	by totoro.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id fAGMSGC28747
	for <shudoh@muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:28:17 +0900 (JST)
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org)
	by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian))
	id 164rP3-0003DB-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:24:05 -0500
Received: from anis.telecom.uqam.ca ([132.208.250.6] helo=uqam.ca)
	by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian))
	id 164rMg-0003AU-00
	for <classpath@gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:21:38 -0500
Received: from er.uqam.ca (nobel.si.uqam.ca [132.208.219.1])
	by uqam.ca (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAGMGR003222;
	Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:16:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from perseval.info.uqam.ca (perseval.info.uqam.ca [132.208.137.96])
	by er.uqam.ca (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id fAGMGQY20781;
	Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:16:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=uqam.ca)
	by perseval.info.uqam.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian))
	id 164rHa-0000M7-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:16:22 -0500
Message-ID: <3BF59035.2050408@uqam.ca>
From: "Etienne M. Gagnon" <etienne.gagnon@uqam.ca>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011023
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Stuart Ballard <sballard@netreach.net>
CC: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Fred Gray <fegray@npl.uiuc.edu>,
   Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>, classpath@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re (2): testing before a release
References: <200111071630.RAA13838@lillian-ics.inf.ethz.ch> <m3pu6ukspv.fsf@lyta.haphazard.org> <3BE9D9A2.5000800@bothner.com> <20011107230801.A4335@npl.uiuc.edu> <20011109115502.C14466@klomp.org> <3BEC0C0D.9080401@uqam.ca> <20011116151445.A13527@klomp.org> <3BF57C67.9040902@uqam.ca> <3BF58B7A.2C0900D0@netreach.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: classpath-admin@gnu.org
Errors-To: classpath-admin@gnu.org
X-BeenThere: classpath@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <mailto:classpath-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:classpath@gnu.org>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath>,
	<mailto:classpath-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Id: <classpath.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath>,
	<mailto:classpath-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/classpath/>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:16:21 -0500
Content-Length: 2364

Stuart Ballard wrote:

> It's possible to modify a GPL'd app to use a proprietary library, and
> run that, too, so long as you don't distribute the result (the fact that
> the modified app is a derived work is clearer in this case, too).
> 
> The GPL only kicks in for distribution. Period. If that's not the case,
> then I've been very much misled in every licensing discussion I've ever
> had, and by the GPL FAQ and other FSF documents on the GPL. And if
> that's true then someone ought to really raise a stink, because I doubt
> I'm the only one.


Here's an edited extract of an email between RMS and myself about the subject.

...
RMS: You're assuming that "making normal use" cannot be making a derived work.
   That assumption is not right, though.  Making normal use of a module
   CAN be making a derived work.  For example, for a library, normal use
   is ALWAYS making a derived work.

Etienne: So, what would be your answer to the question:
     "Can I run proprietary Java applications and native JNI libraries under
     Kaffe?"

RMS: My answer would be, no you can't.

Etienne: How come "running" a non-free Java program on Kaffe would violate
       the GPL license?  This is a point I have difficulty to understand.

RMS: Because it is linking the two together.
...
Etienne: Just to confirm that I now understand correctly...
   Linking (dynamic and/or static) of an GPL work "A" with another work "B"
   is addressed by clause 2 of the GPL, namely: "you may *modify* your
   copy...".  This is because linking "A" with "B" does *modify* "A".

   The analogy would be to say that "linking" a work by Shakespeare (which
   is in the public domain) with an "introduction and commentary" does
   create a derived work, even though no word has been changed in
   Shakespeare's text.  So, the simple act of "linking" constitutes a
   modification of the original work.  Right?

RMS: Right.  It makes a collective or combined work.

Now, you can ask RMS for clarifications, if you want.

Etienne
-- 
Etienne M. Gagnon                    http://www.info.uqam.ca/~egagnon/
SableVM:                                       http://www.sablevm.org/
SableCC:                                       http://www.sablecc.org/


_______________________________________________
Classpath mailing list
Classpath@gnu.org
http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

In This Thread