From: Evan Phoenix Date: 2010-07-13T14:57:12+09:00 Subject: [ruby-core:31240] Re: [Bug #3140] gem activation has changed between 1.8 and 1.9 On Jul 12, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Yusuke ENDOH wrote: > 2010/7/13 Yehuda Katz : >> If the problem is that ruby-core doesn't use RubyGems that much, and isn't willing to avoid breaking fundamental package manager properties, perhaps it's worth reconsidering including it in Ruby 1.9. > > Agreed. > > > BTW, I don't see why you did not complain until rc1 is released. > I gave and noticed you a chance to test your product [ruby-core:30543]. > In addition, the preview plan was announced in May [ruby-core:28665]. I'm sorry that I got involved in the situation so late. Yehuda and Aaron Patterson both approached me about the problem not long ago. > > In fact, I heard from Shyouhei that you had noticed some trouble about > this issue in June (though I cannot know the detail because you did > not complain formally). I'm unable to speak about how or when the bug was seen in the past, but regardless, it did go overlooked for too long. All we can do now is correct the situation. > > You actually had a chance. In this case, I can't help but say that you > are too uncooperative, or even opposing to 1.9.2 release. This result > is what you asked for. > > In this case I guess we could manage this issue, thanks to Evan's patch. > But, please please cooperate us in next time. I asked Eric to official appoint me as the maintainer of gem_prelude so that future issues related to it can be handled swiftly. I'm happy to fulfill this duty. My hope is that my patch goes into 1.9.2, and on trunk we can further refine the solution. In the coming weeks, I'll be asking ruby-core for input on what the core features of gem_prelude must be so that we can accomplish that goal without problems. Yusuke, thank you for your patience in dealing with this bug. I know that it has cause d the 1.9.2 release process and you much grief, but I think we all now agree that fixing the bug in some way is necessary for 1.9.2. Your humble gem_prelude maintainer, Evan Phoenix > > -- > Yusuke Endoh > >