[#109115] [Ruby master Misc#18891] Expand tabs in C code — "k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18891 has been reported by k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun).

13 messages 2022/07/02

[#109118] [Ruby master Bug#18893] Don't redefine memcpy(3) — "alx (Alejandro Colomar)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18893 has been reported by alx (Alejandro Colomar).

11 messages 2022/07/02

[#109152] [Ruby master Bug#18899] Inconsistent argument handling in IO#set_encoding — "javanthropus (Jeremy Bopp)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18899 has been reported by javanthropus (Jeremy Bopp).

10 messages 2022/07/06

[#109193] [Ruby master Bug#18909] ARGF.readlines reads more than current file — "JohanJosefsson (Johan Josefsson)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18909 has been reported by JohanJosefsson (Johan Josefsson).

17 messages 2022/07/13

[#109196] [Ruby master Bug#18911] Process._fork hook point is not called when Process.daemon is used — "ivoanjo (Ivo Anjo)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18911 has been reported by ivoanjo (Ivo Anjo).

9 messages 2022/07/13

[#109201] [Ruby master Bug#18912] Build failure with macOS 13 (Ventura) Beta — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18912 has been reported by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).

20 messages 2022/07/14

[#109206] [Ruby master Bug#18914] Segmentation fault during Ruby test suite execution — "jprokop (Jarek Prokop)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18914 has been reported by jprokop (Jarek Prokop).

8 messages 2022/07/14

[#109207] [Ruby master Feature#18915] New error class: NotImplementedYetError or scope change for NotImplementedYet — Quintasan <noreply@...>

Issue #18915 has been reported by Quintasan (Michał Zając).

18 messages 2022/07/14

[#109260] [Ruby master Feature#18930] Officially deprecate class variables — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18930 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

21 messages 2022/07/20

[#109314] [Ruby master Bug#18938] Backport cf7d07570f50ef9c16007019afcff11ba6500d70 — "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18938 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

8 messages 2022/07/25

[#109371] [Ruby master Feature#18949] Deprecate and remove replicate and dummy encodings — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18949 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

35 messages 2022/07/29

[ruby-core:109389] [Ruby master Feature#18930] Officially deprecate class variables

From: "zverok (Victor Shepelev)" <noreply@...>
Date: 2022-07-30 23:41:18 UTC
List: ruby-core #109389
Issue #18930 has been updated by zverok (Victor Shepelev).


@austin

About your example

I'd say that referencing a class method in another class method in inheritance hierarchy always makes one ask whether you meant the method/data of the base class or of the current one. 

Because, like

> but `Rand.dependents` producing `{1=>V1}` and `Timestamp.dependents` producing `{2=>V2,3=>V3,4=>V4}`.

I can easily imagine it as a _desired_ outcome (e.g., "every non-Vx class is root for its own list of versions, and stores them independently"). 

So, without using class variables, I'd rewrote that with `Base.dependents` to make the intention unambiguous: "yes, please be aware, whenever in class hierarchy this will be reused, we are putting it into the **Base's** list of dependents."

You mention it as a "hacky workaround," but I honestly see it as a most explicit (and not that verbose) way of stating the intention; I use it instead of class vars even today.

(It wasn't that way always for me: I adored class vars for this kind of trick... But at some point, I came to an understanding that I needed to challenge "well, I learned the class vars quirk long ago, it is natural to me," and now see them as a way of too cryptic coding of the same, not that frequently needed meaning, "yes, that's data shared throughout the hierarchy")

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Feature #18930: Officially deprecate class variables
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18930#change-98538

* Author: Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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Ruby's class variables are very confusing, and it seem many people agree they should be avoided (#18927).

How about we deprecate them officially?

Concretely:
* Mention in the documentation that class variables are deprecated and should be avoided/should not be used.
* Add a parse-time deprecation warning, now that we only see those with `Warning[:deprecation] = true` it seems reasonable to add.



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