[#114936] [Ruby master Feature#19908] Update to Unicode 15.1 — "nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115016] [Ruby master Bug#19921] TestYJIT#test_bug_19316 test failure — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115033] [Ruby master Misc#19925] DevMeeting-2023-11-07 — "mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115068] [Ruby master Bug#19929] Warnings for `mutex_m`, `drb` and `base64` appears while the gem spec has explicit dependencies — "yahonda (Yasuo Honda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115071] [Ruby master Misc#19931] to_int is not for implicit conversion? — "Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115139] [Ruby master Bug#19969] Regression of memory usage with Ruby 3.1 — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115165] [Ruby master Bug#19972] Install default/bundled gems into dedicated directories — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#115196] [Ruby master Feature#19979] Allow methods to declare that they don't accept a block via `&nil` — "ufuk (Ufuk Kayserilioglu) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[ruby-core:115154] [Ruby master Feature#19744] Namespace on read

From: "fxn (Xavier Noria) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2023-10-24 19:30:23 UTC
List: ruby-core #115154
Issue #19744 has been updated by fxn (Xavier Noria).


I see it as @Eregon.

Let me share my point of view more broadly.

First of all, I believe solutions should be given to library authors, not to client code. Bottom up. If client code needs to workaround limitation of the language, you have to revise the language, not hack around it from client code. Isolation may be cool provided it is transparent to the code being isolated. Like, for your app living in a container is quite transparent, as @Eregon said, forking is quite transparent.

C++, Java, Python, and many others have namespaces and import mechanisms. Ruby does not have them in the same manner, but modules and conventions de facto act as separators among libraries. So we already have the tool to avoid conflicts.

As I said, `Oj` is the one to revise its API, in my view.

We do not have a tool to _formally_ prevent access to internal lib stuff from client code, granted, but that is a different problem to the one addressed here (according to the motivations in the description). And, at the end of the day, in a so remarkably dynamic language like Ruby, at some point discipline from client code is to be expected.

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Feature #19744: Namespace on read
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19744#change-105061

* Author: tagomoris (Satoshi Tagomori)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# What is the "Namespace on read"

This proposes a new feature to define virtual top-level namespaces in Ruby. Those namespaces can require/load libraries (either .rb or native extension) separately from the global namespace. Dependencies of required/loaded libraries are also required/loaded in the namespace.

### Motivation

The "namespace on read" can solve the 2 problems below, and can make a path to solve another problem:
The details of those motivations are described in the below section ("Motivation details").

#### Avoiding name conflicts between libraries

Applications can require two different libraries safely which use the same module name.

#### Avoiding unexpected globally shared modules/objects

Applications can make an independent/unshared module instance.

#### (In the future) Multiple versions of gems can be required

Application developers will have fewer version conflicts between gem dependencies if rubygems/bundler will support the namespace on read.

### Example code with this feature

```ruby
# your_module.rb
module YourModule
end

# my_module.rb
require 'your_module'

module MyModule
end

# example.rb
namespace1 = NameSpace.new
namespace1.require('my_module') #=> true

namespace1::MyModule #=> #<Module:0x00000001027ea650>::MyModule (or #<NameSpace:0x00...>::MyModule ?)
namespace1::YourModule # similar to the above

MyModule # NameError
YourModule # NameError

namespace2 = NameSpace.new      # Any number of namespaces can be defined
namespace2.require('my_module') # Different library "instance" from namespace1

require 'my_module' # require in the global namespace

MyModule.object_id != namespace1::MyModule.object_id #=> true
namespace1::MyModule.object_id != namespace2::MyModule.object_id
```

The required/loaded libraries will define different "instances" of modules/classes in those namespaces (just like the "wrapper" 2nd argument of `Kernel.load`). This doesn't introduce compatibility problems if all libraries use relative name resolution (without forced top-level reference like `::Name`).

# "On read": optional, user-driven feature

"On read" is a key thing of this feature. That means:

* No changes are required in existing/new libraries (except for limited cases, described below)
* No changes are required in applications if it doesn't need namespaces
* Users can enable/use namespaces just for limited code in the whole library/application

Users can start using this feature step by step (if they want it) without any big jumps.

## Motivation details

This feature can solve multiple problems I have in writing/executing Ruby code. Those are from the 3 problems I mentioned above: name conflicts, globally shared modules, and library version conflicts between dependencies. I'll describe 4 scenarios about those problems.

### Running multiple applications on a Ruby process

Modern computers have many CPU cores and large memory spaces. We sometimes want to have many separate applications (either micro-service architecture or modular monolith). Currently, running those applications require different processes. It requires additional computation costs (especially in developing those applications).

If we have isolated namespaces and can load applications in those namespaces, we'll be able to run apps on a process, with less overhead.

(I want to run many AWS Lambda applications on a process in isolated namespaces.)

### Running tests in isolated namespaces

Tests that require external libraries need many hacks to:

* require a library multiple times
* require many different 3rd party libraries into isolated spaces (those may conflict with each other)

Software with plugin systems (for example, Fluentd) will get benefit from namespaces.

In addition to it, application tests can avoid unexpected side effects if tests are executed in isolated namespaces.

### Safely isolated library instances

Libraries may have globally shared states. For example, [Oj](https://github.com/ohler55/oj) has a global `Obj.default_options` object to change the library behavior. Those options may be changed by any dependency libraries or applications, and it changes the behavior of `Oj` globally, unexpectedly.

For such libraries, we'll be able to instantiate a safe library instance in an isolated namespace.

### Avoiding dependency hells

Modern applications use many libraries, and those libraries require much more dependencies. Those dependencies will cause version conflicts very often. In such cases, application developers should resolve those by updating each libraries, or should just wait for the new release of libraries to conflict those libraries. Sometimes, library maintainers don't release updated versions, and application developers can do nothing.

If namespaces can require/load a library multiple times, it also enables to require/load different versions of a library in a process. It requires the support of rubygems, but namespaces should be a good fundamental of it.

## Expected problems

### Use of top-level references

In my expectation, `::Name` should refer the top-level `Name` in the global namespace. I expect that `::ENV` should contain the environment variables. But it may cause compatibility problems if library code uses `::MyLibrary` to refer themselves in their deeply nested library code.

### Additional memory consumption

An extension library (dynamically linked library) may be loaded multiple times (by `dlopen` for temporarily copied dll files) to load isolated library "instances" if different namespaces require the same extension library. That consumes additional memory.

In my opinion, additional memory consumption is a minimum cost to realize loading extension libraries multiple times without compatibility issues.

This occurs only when programmers use namespaces. And it's only about libraries that are used in 2 or more namespaces.

### The change of `dlopen` flag about extension libraries

To load an extension library multiple times without conflicting symbols, all extensions should stop sharing symbols globally. Libraries referring symbols from other extension libraries will have to change code & dependencies.

(About the things about extension libraries, [Naruse also wrote an entry](https://naruse.hateblo.jp/entry/2023/05/22/193411).)

# Misc

The proof-of-concept branch is here: https://github.com/tagomoris/ruby/pull/1
It's still work-in-progress branch, especially for extension libraries.




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