From: trevor andrade Date: 2004-05-01T07:17:35+09:00 Subject: Re: How's ruby compare to it older brother python Here is a canned response BEGINNING OF CANNED RESPONSE version 0.001 Dear Questioner, You have asked something along the lines of "How does Ruby compare to Python". This question has been asked many times before and there is an extensive set of resources with answers to this question. In the Ruby community we pride ourselves on being friendly and welcoming, especially to newcomers. However we also wanted to make sure that our newsgroup is efficient and that we don't spend too much time and energy answering questions that have already been answered. Therefore we have created this canned response that is intended to answer the question you are asking. Below are links to websites, wikis and the Ruby archives that talk about this topic in great detail. Also please take a look at the etiquette for this newsgroup. Python vs. Ruby threads for the archives: http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/95984 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/91151 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79412 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79433 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79492 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79543 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79545 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79548 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79587 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79588 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79592 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79616 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79636 http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/79660 Some websites http://www.ruby-doc.org/RubyEyeForThePythonGuy.html http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonVsRuby Link to Etiquette for the Ruby NewsGroup: PUT LINK FOR ETIQUETTE HERE Thread which explains why canned response was developed: PUT LINK TO THIS THREAD HERE. ITS NOT UP ON RUBY NEWSGROUP ARCHIVE YET. We hope that this adequately answers your question. Regards, Ruby Community END OF CANNED RESPONSE Anybody who wants to change anything or add any additional resources to this reponse can add it or come up with something better. Then we can save this canned response and use it whenever anybody asks this question. I think this solution is better than any other for solving the repetitive question problem. It is definitely better than flaming or criticizing. Regards, Trevor Andrade -----Original Message----- From: James Britt [mailto:jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:14 AM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: How's ruby compare to it older brother python Dan Doel wrote: > I'm not saying the topic isn't appropriate. I don't mind the topic, and I find > comparisons between languages interesting, and enjoy reading them. But, > looking around at ruby talk, I found clear Python vs. Ruby threads fom: > Apr 26, 2004 (this one) > > Mar 28, 2004 > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/95984 > > Feb 1, 2004 > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/91151 > > I don't know that Python and Ruby change so fast that they need to be > discussed anew every month. That was my motivation for assembling this page a few months ago: http://www.ruby-doc.org/RubyEyeForThePythonGuy.html This topic is a permathread, and while it is relevant and interesting, it is also, for many people on this list, all too familiar. I think most people can learn what they want to know by following the links on that page and reading the previous mailing list discussions, both here and on comp.lang.python. > I just think that maybe it'd be good to gather together some stuff > from the archives and elsewhere so that "the answer" can just be > referenced. It'd cut down on the "Python is less OO than Ruby." "No > it's not, and besides Ruby is less functional." "No it's not..." Such pages have existed for some time now, but the people creating and perpetuating this discussion are, by and large, newcomers who haven't bothered to (or don't care to) look for such resources. James