From: "Bennett, Patrick" <Patrick.Bennett@...>
Date: 2004-04-21T03:40:41+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] Instiki 0.7.0: Flavors of Expression

CamelCase breaks down when you want an acronym like FOO to be a link.
It also breaks down for single word links.  Ie: C++ - and the resulting
c2.com abomination CeePlusPlus.  So, IMO, I think both should work -
CamelCase should still be a link, but [[xxxxx xxxx]] is also a link.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Hugues ROBERT [mailto:jean_hugues_robert@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:32 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: [ANN] Instiki 0.7.0: Flavors of Expression
> 
> Remove CamelCase ?
> 
> I'd rather not. Because of an additional, subtle, cons:
> 
> Thanks to CamelCase new "concepts" are popularized.
> Here is why:
> 
> When a couple of words (or slightly more) go together
> well and if the underlying concept is successful
> enough, then the CamelCase name for the concept will
> pop up frequently and chances are that it becomes an idiom.
> 
> CamelCase is an example of this.
> 
> Having "names" for "things" is a good thing, it
> structures the mind and facilitate communication.
> Regular names are already overloaded with meaning.
> CamelCase open a new name space for CamelNames.
> 
> You may agree that the success of acronyms is another
> indication of the deep need for new name spaces. So, help
> fulfill that need and promote CamelNames :-)
> 
> BTW: Do we remember how we used to describe a name
> in CamelCase before CamelCase became so widely accepted ?
> Personnaly I discovered that name, CamelCase, browsing
> www.c2.com, the original Wiki. That way... despites having
> been exposed to SmallTalk years before (where I believe
> CamelCase was used a lot for the first time).
> 
> An additional benefit of CamelCase is that while Wikis becomes
> increasingly popular, it will become possible to use
> a CamelName in a mail message. People will understand
> that one is referring to an already defined concept
> that they can find information about in some Wiki.
> 
> Now, if you want to do something that will promote
> CamelCase names, provide a feature whereby one can
> easily provide a CamelLink to a WikiPage in an external
> wiki and then you get another WWW (WorldWideWiki).
> See also InterWikiLinks,
> on Meatball (http://usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterWikiLinks)
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Jean-Hugues Robert
> 
> PS: If you want to support [[such links]], make it possible
> to have CamelCaseLinks too (at the same time). My 2 Cents.
> 
> 
> At 21:39 20/04/2004 +0900, you wrote:
> >David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> > > What's new in Instiki 0.7.0?
> >
> >I've got a proposition for the next version: remove CamelCase and use
> >links like this: [[Wiki Page]].
> >
> >Cons:
> >- more to type
> >
> >Pros:
> >- no accidental linking
> >- no need to escape WikiWords
> >- no need to invent stupid names for wiki pages: having to write
> >   "CeeLanguage" if you mean "C" sucks big time
> >- wiki pages get a higher page rank: for most search engines the URL
> >   ".../show/WikiPage" doesn't contain the word "Wiki", so the page
is
> >   ranked lower in a search for "Wiki" as it would if the words in
the
> >   Url were seperated by " " or "_"
> >- Wikipedia does it
> >
> >Please tell me what you think about it.
> >  in the
> >   Url were seperated by " " or "_"
> >- Wikipedia does it
> >
> >Please tell me what you think about it.
> 
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