From: Rasputin Date: 2004-01-22T22:22:28+09:00 Subject: Re: Proposal for programming language of the year Avi Bryant wrote: >Carsten Eckelmann wrote in message news:<400E16B5.6070505@circle42.com>... > > >>Joey Gibson wrote: >> >> >> >>>Why limit yourselves to using Squeak? Cincom Smalltalk (nee >>>VisualWorks) is available in a non-commercial version for free. It's >>>not crippled at all and it is free. Those of us who used VisualWorks >>>years ago will remember how nice it is. Here's the URL: >>>http://www.cincom.com/scripts/smalltalk.dll/downloads/index.ssp >>> >>> >>Why exactly is using Squeak a limitation? Could you expand a little more >>on that subject? I thought Squeak is a full-featured Smalltalk system? >> >> > >It is. I don't really know what "limitations" Joey means, but here >are some differences: > > >- Squeak is much more portable: it runs bit and pixel identical on >every major desktop platform, some minor ones (Acorn, anyone?), >PocketPC etc > > Thats the clincher for me - is VisualWorks windows only? It would be a better choice for me as a SmallTalk newbie, as all the ST books seem to be VW-centric. ( Incidentally, thanks for SeaSide, Avi. Most intuitive webapp framework I've seen: the main reason I'm interested in learning Smalltalk is to get a better handle on it and therefore borges - a.k.a 'SeaSide in ruby' ).