[#89088] More questions about =~ — GGarramuno@... (GGarramuno)

irb(main):006:1* class String

14 messages 2004/01/01

[#89119] Loop/Iterator questions — GGarramuno@... (GGarramuno)

1) Is there anything like Perl's continue block available? This is

15 messages 2004/01/02

[#89189] Best way to send mail in ruby — Bauduin Raphael <rb@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2004/01/03

[#89193] Simple Ruby DB apps/programs ... — Useko Netsumi <usenets@...>

I was wondering if there are some example of small Ruby(1.8.1) Database

14 messages 2004/01/03

[#89261] class Time doesn't pass year 2038? — Jean-Baptiste <temuphaey0@...>

15 messages 2004/01/05

[#89339] Compression (besides Huffman) and Ruby — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>

Hi!

14 messages 2004/01/07

[#89367] Database applications and OOness — Tim Bates <tim@...>

People,

63 messages 2004/01/07
[#89455] Re: Database applications and OOness — "dhtapp" <dhtapp@...> 2004/01/08

I've been watching this thread with a great deal of interest. I'm

[#89456] block delimiting — Pete Yadlowsky <pmy@...> 2004/01/08

[#89465] Re: block delimiting — Austin Ziegler <austin@...> 2004/01/08

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 04:33:15 +0900, Pete y wrote:

[#89453] ruby 1.8.1 windows installer — KONTRA Gergely <kgergely@...>

Hi!

26 messages 2004/01/08
[#89716] Re: ruby 1.8.1 windows installer — intc_ctor@... (Phil Tomson) 2004/01/12

>

[#89860] Re: ruby 1.8.1 windows installer — Alan Davies <NOSPAMcs96and@...> 2004/01/14

> Since the first edition of the Pickaxe book didn't exactly fly off the

[#89460] Re: block delimiting — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

21 messages 2004/01/08

[#89590] regex to NOT match? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

Sorry it seems like the smallest thing, but I'm stuck on this.

16 messages 2004/01/10

[#89611] Converting a string to an array of tokens — "John W. Long" <ws@...>

Is there a fast way to convert a string into a list of tokens?

17 messages 2004/01/11

[#89672] faster integer arithmetics & arbitrary precision floating number — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com>

1. Is there a way in Ruby to speed up 32bit integer arithmetics (only

43 messages 2004/01/12
[#89686] Re: faster integer arithmetics & arbitrary precision floating number — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/01/12

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, David Garamond wrote:

[#89709] Re: faster integer arithmetics & arbitrary precision floating number — Charles Mills <boson@...> 2004/01/12

What abouts Rubys design would make integer arithmetic slower than integer

[#89710] Re: faster integer arithmetics & arbitrary precision floating number — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/01/12

[#89711] Re: faster integer arithmetics & arbitrary precision floating number — Charles Mills <boson@...> 2004/01/12

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#89718] Getting the tail of a list? — Carsten Eckelmann <careck@...42.com>

Hi everybody,

19 messages 2004/01/12

[#89796] Ruby OS mentioned on /. — intc_ctor@... (Phil Tomson)

http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/01/13/0123250.shtml?tid=185&tid=190

20 messages 2004/01/13
[#89805] Re: Ruby OS mentioned on /. — Paul William <maillist@...> 2004/01/13

./ normally does not have vaporware... are a bunch of ruby (a very high

[#89806] Re: Ruby OS mentioned on /. — "Zach Dennis" <zdennis@...> 2004/01/13

Somehow i have this strange feeling that not all ruby peeps are strictly

[#89975] drb, firewall, ssh tunneling, and yield — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

14 messages 2004/01/16
[#89976] Re: drb, firewall, ssh tunneling, and yield — Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel@...> 2004/01/16

On Jan 15, 2004, at 19:10, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#90013] Fighting Ruby's bad fame — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hi gurus and nubys,

42 messages 2004/01/16
[#90097] Re: Fighting Ruby's bad fame — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2004/01/18

In article <af53b0ba.0401171921.7cf9b9b7@posting.google.com>,

[#90023] Installing a program Unix-like — Malte Milatz <malteDELETETHIS@...>

Users of Linux, FreeBSD etc. are used to downloading an archive,

13 messages 2004/01/16

[#90077] long expression syntax — rick.hu@... (Rick Hu)

why do I get a syntax error for

13 messages 2004/01/17

[#90086] is Ruby the right language for these projects? — Ruby Baby <ruby@...>

Please forgive my self-centered question. I've been learning all about Ruby

16 messages 2004/01/18

[#90139] segfaults on mandrake... — Ferenc Engard <ferenc@...>

Hello,

16 messages 2004/01/18

[#90200] regex help — Chris Morris <chrismo@...>

I need a re such that:

18 messages 2004/01/19

[#90228] Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

In article <mailman.493.1074484056.12720.python-list@python.org>,

36 messages 2004/01/20
[#90292] Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby — Ville Vainio <ville.spamstermeister.vainio@...> 2004/01/20

>>>>> "Phil" == Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> writes:

[#90294] Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby — "Zach Dennis" <zdennis@...> 2004/01/20

Ville>Though "sending messages" to int literals is a syntax error.

[#90332] Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby — GGarramuno@... (GGarramuno) 2004/01/21

"Zach Dennis" <zdennis@mktec.com> wrote in message news:<AKEKIKLMCFIHPEAHKAAICEOHHFAA.zdennis@mktec.com>...

[#90333] Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby — Gregory Millam <walker@...> 2004/01/21

Received: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:59:59 +0900

[#90317] Re: Proposal for programming language of the year — "Volkmann, Mark" <Mark.Volkmann@...>

I think one of the main points of learning a new language each year is that

18 messages 2004/01/21

[#90354] Modules as namespace — gm@... (George Moschovitis)

Hello everyone,

16 messages 2004/01/21

[#90405] Very basic Ruby docs/books/tutorial? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hello,

12 messages 2004/01/22

[#90472] Ruby/Extensions v0.3 released — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

A new version of Ruby/Extensions, a suite of useful methods added to

17 messages 2004/01/23

[#90505] Why is to_a going to be obsolete? — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...>

I find it immensely useful when dealing with arrays to be able to

25 messages 2004/01/23
[#90507] Re: Why is to_a going to be obsolete? — Gennady <gfb@...> 2004/01/23

Patrick Bennett wrote:

[#90510] Re: Why is to_a going to be obsolete? — Patrick Bennett <patrick.bennett@...> 2004/01/23

Hmmm, thanks, but it's a bit 'non-obvious' to casual Ruby programmers

[#90512] Re: Why is to_a going to be obsolete? — Gennady <gfb@...> 2004/01/23

[#90524] Re: Why is to_a going to be obsolete? — "T. Onoma" <transami@...> 2004/01/23

On Friday 23 January 2004 06:43 pm, Gennady wrote:

[#90598] perl bug File::Basename and Perl's nature — xah@... (Xah Lee)

Just bumped into another irresponsibility in perl.

19 messages 2004/01/25

[#90667] ruby-math and "why is ** not abelian?" — vanjac12@... (Van Jacques)

I was reading the 1st thread in the ruby-math discussion at

11 messages 2004/01/26

[#90750] choosing ruby? — Piergiuliano Bossi <p_bossi_AGAINST_SPAM@...>

We are on the way to start a new project, a web application with a bunch

20 messages 2004/01/27

[#90756] Editor — Safran von Twesla <me@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2004/01/27

[#90770] newbee question about "missing" hash methods +, += and << — benny <linux@...>

Hi,

25 messages 2004/01/27

[#90913] vimrc for Ruby or rubytidy — Theodore Knab <tjk@...>

Does someone have a '.vimrc' file they will share

17 messages 2004/01/29
[#90914] Re: vimrc for Ruby or rubytidy — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...> 2004/01/29

> Does someone have a '.vimrc' file they will share

[#90971] time comparison — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>

i want to parse and trim a log file. the date format log file looks like:

13 messages 2004/01/29

[#91005] Ruby and Perl Integration — "John W. Long" <ws@...>

All this talk about RJNI has gotten me thinking. Has anyone attempted to

17 messages 2004/01/30
[#91007] Re: Ruby and Perl Integration — Thomas Adam <thomas_adam16@...> 2004/01/30

--- "John W. Long" <ws@johnwlong.com> wrote:

[#91056] principle of most suprise — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>

gah, ruby is doing it to me again:

31 messages 2004/01/30

[#91071] Accesing to private attributes — "Imobach =?iso-8859-15?q?Gonz=E1lez_Sosa?=" <imodev@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2004/01/30

[#91088] flip flop operator and assignment — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

I'm working on the pattern matching section for

25 messages 2004/01/31

[#91089] No difference between .. and ... flip/flop operators? — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

50 messages 2004/01/31

[#91099] Ruby 1.8.1 REXML performance — Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@...>

I have a script that uses REXML to stream parse an XML file and load a

27 messages 2004/01/31

[#91104] graphics lib? — Alwin Blok <alwinblok@...>

Hello,

38 messages 2004/01/31
[#91262] Re: graphics lib? — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...> 2004/02/02

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:18:50 -0600, Charles Comstock wrote:

[#91362] Re: graphics lib? — Charles Comstock <cc1@...> 2004/02/03

Simon Strandgaard wrote:

Re: New to Python: my impression v. Perl/Ruby

From: ggarramuno@... (GGarramuno)
Date: 2004-01-20 11:25:02 UTC
List: ruby-talk #90251
>you can use 'for' 
>for example, but:
>
>   10.times do something end 
>
>is somehow so clear.  It's almost zenlike.
>

No, he can't.   If you read his code carefully, he is using step() to count in
steps of 45.
Both for and times() are useless for that, as both always count in ones (also
times does not allow you to specify the beginning/end of the range, either,
just the number of times).

There is another way of using step which I think does read a tad more clear
than the ugly Integer method, which is using a Range object.

Thus, instead of the completely awkward:

0.step(360,45)  {}

you write (also watch out for the .. / ... of range being including/excluding
last number):

(0..360).step(45)  {}

The above will do the same as the OP's original command, but reads more natural
to me (at least I don't have to consult the docs to figure out whether 360 is
the step or the last value -- something I would have to if I was dealing with
variables instead of numbers).

I am not sure if there is a performance difference, thou, as a  temp range
object needs to be constructed.

Also, I suspect that, for the example, he really wanted ... in the range for
dealing with angles as you don't want to consider 360.

That being said, I admit I also find that syntax somewhat confusing too and
would rather have a "step" in a for loop or the ability to loop thru ranges (or
arrays) with a step value, like:

   for i in (0...360) step 45
   end

as you can in python when you do:
   for i in range(0,360,45):

This is also needed in my opinion because the other commands open a new block,
which I undestand is a tad less efficient (and it also changes scope rules a
little).

Other than that, you can use a while loop at the cost of typing much more.

On the positive side, ruby's ranges are still more practical than doing the
same with Perl, where a for or while loop are more or less your only choices. 
And unlike python, you can also change the loop condition to be considered at
the end of the loop like C's do/while() constructs, which was a construct I
tended to miss in python.



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