From: dagbrown@... (Dave Brown)
Date: 2003-12-03T06:42:07+09:00
Subject: Re: anything disappearing from Ruby for 2.0?

In article <3fccb267$0$92921$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net>,
Chris Uppal <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> wrote:
: T. Onoma wrote:
: > I really don't understand this. You won't use Ruby b/c it has
: > some EXTRA Perl-like features?
: 
: Yes, that's right.
: 
: Elegance, simplicity, clarity -- the things that (IMO) are necessary for a
: language to have that "effortless" feeling -- are dependent (among other
: things) on a reasonably complete absence of clutter and other warts.
: 
: For *me* the stuff starting on p216 of the pickaxe is a long
: list of warts.  

I think it's time to pull out one of my favorite Matz-isms:

    "Ruby is not a language to keep people away from horror."
                                            -- Yukihiro Matsumoto

You're a grown-up, capable of self-discipline: if you don't like a
feature, then simply don't use it.  It's not meant for you.

There are people for whom those features are very handy, and Ruby
strives for "very handy" more than it strives for "pure of
thought".

--Dave
-- 
"CS is about lofty design goals and algorithmic optimization.
 Sysadminning is about cleaning up the fscking mess that results."
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