From: "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Date: 2003-12-02T23:38:52+09:00
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Ruby2 RCR (was Re: Constants, class variables and the cbase field)

Hi --

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, T. Onoma wrote:

> 2. And so I am led to make a suggestion now: That we, as a community, might 
> think about how to better this whole process. I for instance, was thinking of 
> a wiki-ish web knowledgebase of well catagorized suggestions, good search 
> functionality, perhaps automatic poles for "late stage" ideas (those being 
> prepared for RCR), etc. Something that really moves ideas through a process
> from early suggestion and exploration through a perculation, upward into final 
> RCR. [ed model after Scientific Process] And with this, likewise, a much more 
> exacting RCR process itself. (I believe David is working on the latter 
                                          ^^^^^

Just to disambiguate, since we have several Davids in our community:
that would be me :-)

> presently). The rationale behind this is of course to organize the seemingly 
> chaotic way in which it is approached now, thus lowering repetition of 
> same-old-same-old as all we have now is a poor mail-archive search; and at 
> the same time improve the quality of the really good ideas that make it to 
> the top. This would help matz, I think, quite a lot.  (But mind you, even if 
> we gain #2, please do not forget #1!)
> 
> ...
> 
> Obviously the current route is becoming a burden for our beloved matz.

The new RCR process (still under construction) comes directly from a
request from Matz, and is being developed with feedback from him, so
hopefully it will address his concerns.  For the other things you
mention, I'd be happy to see much or most of the discourse about
changing Ruby moved to a wiki somewhere, as you suggest.  (There's
vastly too much of it on the mailing lists for my personal taste.)
The goal of the RCR site, however, is to be self-contained,
RCR-dedicated, and reasonably rigorous, so I don't think it's
practicable or desirable to mandate that people also go through a
pre-RCR process unless they want to.


David

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David A. Black
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