From: Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>
Date: 2003-11-29T21:32:10+09:00
Subject: Re: Baker

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:24:39 +0900, T. Onoma wrote:

> On Friday 28 November 2003 11:12 pm, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
> 
>> I have been involved in an operating-system project some years ago.
>> We collected many nice ideas. Many documents are unfortunatly in danish,
>> but there are some in english.  You can browse them here:
>> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/metasystem/text/uk/cryos/dos/
>> Please tell me what you think.
>>
>> I would like to help if the project goals were like the visions of the
>> above project :-)
> 
> I looked at those, and they describe ideas for an OS which has many 
> interesting and broad ideas. there are certanly areas of overlap. But what 
> specifically is the vision you're thinking you want them to have in common?

vision: An operating system which tries to implement the best from already
known operating systems.

We stole many great ideas from Amiga, Mac, Unix, Windows.
But the visions were maybe a bit too high.. after it had been going on for
3-4 years, we gave up (failure).  We were 4 active developers.
Lack of coordination, too inexperienced, disagreement on license.. and
many years before I learned Ruby.

I often dream-of/reconsider doing it all over. As soon as yesterday on of
my operating system friends brought the same issue up.. He is obviously
also brainwashed. We need a good shrink, to get rid of such silly ideas.

Today if I were going to make an operating system, then I would do as much
in Ruby as possible. Use some sort of microkernel, so that
everyday kernel-compilation can be avoided. Such kind of project, will
require MANY developers, maybe 20. At least more than 4 active developers.

Because we failed saving the world, I am now doing the second best:
working on a programmers-editor (http://aeditor.rubyforge.org/). 


>> How does the package-category system work ?
> 
> There are three ways. Basic categories are just arbitrary tags for searching 
> and what not. 2nd, we have "use cases" like gentoo. These just identify which 
> packages can work together, and allows you to say which options to leave out 
> or put in across the board. 3rd, you can catagorize packages into groups 
> called RecipeCollection. This is commonly used for, say, grouping all the 
> Gnome programs together. But you can create any collection you want. We do 
> not catagorize programs into a heirachy, if that's what you are asking. 
> RecipeCollections make it uneccessary.

Thanks for explaining.


> We have a mialing list: baker-baker@rubyforge.org. We welcome you to join and 
> see what you think.
> 	http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/baker-baker


OK, I will do that.

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Simon Strandgaard