From: ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)
Date: 2003-11-29T04:27:12+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruby/automation and infrastructure JOB in Gurgaon, near New Delhi, India

In article <B01D18C737644343B0F5E05B8BF2111B0720DED8@delmmsx02.sapient.com>,
Christophe Broult <cbroult@sapient.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phil Tomson [mailto:ptkwt@aracnet.com] 
>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:42 AM
>> To: ruby-talk ML
>> Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruby/automation and infrastructure JOB in 
>> Gurgaon, near New Delhi, India
>> 
>> In article 
>> <B01D18C737644343B0F5E05B8BF2111B0720DD64@delmmsx02.sapient.com>,
>> Christophe Broult <cbroult@sapient.com> wrote:
>> >Hi All,
>> >
>> >[I hope that message is not inappropriate]
>> >
>> >Thanks to Dave's and Andy's Jan 2001 DDJ article, I started 
>> to use Ruby 
>> >to automate daily tasks and a set of tools has been created.
>> >If someone in India wants to have fun programming in Ruby and also 
>> >handle some infrastructure work, there is an opening in 
>> Gurgaon, near 
>> >New Delhi.
>> >
>> 
>> Is it possible for US citizens to emigrate to India and work there?
>
>That is probably possible but I am not sure you are ready to take a
>significant
>pay cut.

Yeah, I guess that I'd worry about not even making enough money to afford 
the return trip to the US.

However, at this point it wouldn't be a pay cut since you can't make less 
than 0.  

>
>> 
>> Since your name (Christophe) doesn't sound Indian, I'm going 
>> to go out on a limb and assume that you're a European that 
>
>I am French and I started working for Sapient in Cambridge,
>Massachusetts 
>on January 2001. Now, most of the enterprise application development 
>work has shifted to India

Ominous signs of things to come....

>and since the end of July I am in Gurgaon 
>to mentor the team and transition the knowledge/tools to the team before
>
>I can focus on QA, testing and automation for the company external 
>client projects. 
>
>> moved to India to work - can you give us any details on how 
>> this is done and what it's like to live there?  
>
>I am trying to stay longer there and there are some tax implications if
>you do not localize (i.e., paying tax in the US and in India).
>So I will let you know about that. India is a country full of contrasts:
>one the one hand beautiful monuments/views, women in colorful sarees 
>and other hand poverty, plastic bags lying on the ground.
>This is very interesting in term of culture and pace of life.
>
>> 
>> ....I'm just trying to prepare for a possible future when 
>> Americans will have to move to India to find engineering work.
>
>if you can take the heat, that may not be a bad idea. The pace
>of life is quite different. 

Might beat having to work at (WalMart|Starbucks|<other service companies>) 
in the US.

Phil