From: Tim Hammerquist Date: 2003-09-06T18:52:28+09:00 Subject: Re: Correction: "religious" Daniel Carrera graced us by uttering: >> I was using the word to describe people who think that >> "something can make a better world" without giving rational >> explainations, only based on their belive that this will >> happen. This is religion. > > Is that also a standard definition of the word "religious"? I > have never heard it. But I think we just showed that I don't > necessarily know what this word means. In my group of friends we had a lot of people saying, "What does X mean?" We always kept a dictionary around for just that sort of thing. In that spirit, the following is from Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913). Note the "Note:" especially. | Religion \Re*li"gion\ (r[-e]*l[i^]j"[u^]n), n. [F., from L. | religio; cf. religens pious, revering the gods, Gr. 'ale`gein | to heed, have a care. Cf. Neglect.] | | 4. Strictness of fidelity in conforming to any practice, as | if it were an enjoined rule of conduct. [R.] | | Those parts of pleading which in ancient times | might perhaps be material, but at this time are | become only mere styles and forms, are still | continued with much religion. | --Sir M. Hale. | | Note: Religion, as distinguished from theology, is | subjective, designating the feelings and acts of men | which relate to God; while theology is objective, and | denotes those ideas which man entertains respecting | the God whom he worships, especially his systematized | views of God. As distinguished from morality, religion | denotes the influences and motives to human duty which | are found in the character and will of God, while | morality describes the duties to man, to which true | religion always influences. As distinguished from | piety, religion is a high sense of moral obligation | and spirit of reverence or worship which affect the | heart of man with respect to the Deity, while piety, | which first expressed the feelings of a child toward a | parent, is used for that filial sentiment of | veneration and love which we owe to the Father of all. | As distinguished from sanctity, religion is the means | by which sanctity is achieved, sanctity denoting | primarily that purity of heart and life which results | from habitual communion with God, and a sense of his | continual presence. HTH, Tim Hammerquist -- Hackers who anthropomorphize are expressing not a vitalistic view of a program behavior but a mechanistic view of human behavior. -- Jargon File 4.3.1