From: wsdng@... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_D=F6rdelmann?=)
Date: 2003-08-15T22:32:47+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby & Windows-world; IDEs

Armin Roehrl <armin@xss.de> wrote:
> Thank Markus,
> > I do not know any others IDE's for Ruby. never tried the windows stuff, I 
> > have only Linux.
> So do I as much as possible :-), but I think for the main-stream acceptance
> of Ruby, a solid working IDE is helpful -- at least many new Ruby
> programmers coming from the Java world seem to be obsessed by
> big IDEs.

It's not only Java people who like powerful IDEs. I guess Smalltalkers
like them, too. (I certainly do.)

If there was something like a VisualStudio for Linux, some people
would probably use it (not that I like VS very much ;-). Take SuSE's
Yast as an example: Some people use it, some don't.

I believe that most emacs/vi users got involved with emacs under unix.
When I started with Windows, I was able to use a Borland IDE without
any serious problems (see
http://www.borland.com/company/background/index.html). When I started
Unix, I've been told to use vi and it took me quite long to properly
use it's power. Today I use emacs, but again, it took quite a while to
gain an acceptable level of productivity. (Learn keystrokes, learn
eLisp, find out that there was an easy to use emacs code browser
availiable,... ;-)

I think it really should no longer be a Windows issue. With a powerful
IDE you don't care about the underlying operating system. (That's what
I learned by using a Smalltalk IDE under Windows sharing not only code
snipplets but also complete images with someone working under
Solaris).

Just my 2 cents, don't want any flames about this...
Sascha