From: "Volkmann, Mark" Date: 2003-08-07T01:15:33+09:00 Subject: Re: newbie question from a smalltalker This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35C35.473607F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This looks to be digressing into a debate over the merits of extreme programming. I think there's a middle ground here. Some people spend too much time "designing" and some don't spend enough. How much time you need to spend obviously depends on your experience level and knowledge of the programming language being used. This is probably why Dave never needs to design. ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett H. Williams [mailto:brett_williams@agilent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:03 AM > To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org > Subject: Re: newbie question from a smalltalker > > > On Aug 7, Dave Thomas wrote: > > Design? Where's the productivity is design? You're only > working when > > you're typing, so the more you do, the harder you're working. > > Yikes! Maybe you can define working harder as more typing, > but I don't see > that as productivity! > > Design leads to productivity because you don't have to retype > things you > didn't plan carefully. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.G. Edwards & Sons' outgoing and incoming e-mails are electronically archived and subject to review and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35C35.473607F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: newbie question from a smalltalker

This looks to be digressing into a debate over the merits= of extreme programming.  I think there's a middle ground here.  = Some people spend too much time "designing" and some don't spend = enough.  How much time you need to spend obviously depends on your exp= erience level and knowledge of the programming language being used.  T= his is probably why Dave never needs to design.  ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett H. Williams [mailto:brett_williams@agilent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:03 AM
> To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
> Subject: Re: newbie question from a smalltalker
>
>
> On Aug  7, Dave Thomas wrote:
> > Design? Where's the productivity is design? Yo= u're only
> working when
> > you're typing, so the more you do, the harder = you're working.
>
> Yikes!  Maybe you can define working harder as= more typing,
> but I don't see
> that as productivity!
>
> Design leads to productivity because you don't have= to retype
> things you
> didn't plan carefully.



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