From: Adriano Volpones Date: 2003-08-07T00:22:42+09:00 Subject: Re: newbie question from a smalltalker Dave Thomas wrote: > I agree that IDEs are a great environment for some folks. But just for > balance I'd point out that it's possible to write decent sized > applications without a class browser and refactoring tools. My biggest > Ruby app so far has 460 classes, and when I need to refactor a method > name I find "grep-find" very usable. You are right! You can always emulate every tool and bell and whistle with lots of grep+find+cut+paste+... is only a matter of time. What I can say is that (for me) the real fun in programming comes from designing and not from typing, where the last is a mere obstacle to obtain the first. Adriano