From: "Hal E. Fulton" Date: 2003-07-18T00:35:03+09:00 Subject: Re: Keyword "with" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Klemme" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby To: "ruby-talk ML" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Keyword "with" > > I think a big reason 'with' has not been accepted is that > > Matz remains unconvinced. It's rather a Pascalism, and I > > recall he said he never liked Pascal. > > Ooops... :-) > > (Does anybody listen? No? Ok: I admit that I like Pascal as a language for > learning. It has some shortcomings especially with regard to IO but it > provides a verbose syntax that makes programs easy to read and understand. > But don't tell matz...) :-) :) I actually liked Pascal very much also, especially when I learned it after coming from BASIC and FORTRAN. It was like a friendlier kind of ALGOL. It had significant problems, but the Borland variant fixed most of these (while introducing one or two more). And nowadays Object Pascal is not perfect, but I say it is as good as C++ or better. Hal -- Hal Fulton hal9000@hypermetrics.com