[#72642] Advantages of Symbols over constants — Marek Janukowicz <childNOSPAM@...17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl>

11 messages 2003/06/01

[#72732] case of sub! not working — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>

Hi,

27 messages 2003/06/03
[#72734] Re: case of sub! not working — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2003/06/03

Ian Macdonald wrote:

[#72744] Re: case of sub! not working — Ian Macdonald <ian@...> 2003/06/03

On Tue 03 Jun 2003 at 10:21:43 +0900, Joel VanderWerf wrote:

[#72769] Re: case of sub! not working — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/06/03

[#72907] Syck 0.35 + YAML.rb 0.60 -- the 1st stable release — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

Pleased to announce:

18 messages 2003/06/05
[#75182] Re: Syck 0.35 + YAML.rb 0.60 -- the 1st stable release — Richard Zidlicky <rz@...68k.org> 2003/07/04

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 06:15:58AM +0900, why the lucky stiff wrote:

[#72908] Problem with "require" stmt in "test-first " tutorial — RLMuller@... (Richard)

Hi All,

27 messages 2003/06/05

[#72940] VAPOR 0.06, Transparent Persistence to PostgreSQL — "Oliver M. Bolzer" <oliver@...>

Hi!

22 messages 2003/06/06

[#72975] join block — "Simon Strandgaard" <0bz63fz3m1qt3001@...>

29 messages 2003/06/06

[#72986] multiple blocks or proc arguments to method — itsme213@... (you CAN teach an old dog ...)

I was trying to write a collect_if method:

11 messages 2003/06/07

[#73081] requiring standard libs with save level 1 — Eugene Scripnik <Eugene.Scripnik@...>

I've set up new version of Ruby from CVS and my programs failed to work.

13 messages 2003/06/09
[#73114] Re: requiring standard libs with save level 1 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/06/09

Hi,

[#73134] tcltklib does not get compiled. — John Fletcher <J.P.Fletcher@...>

I have installed ruby 1.6.7 on two computers using Red Hat 8.0 Linux.

14 messages 2003/06/10

[#73148] OT: Regexp question — Dominik Werder <dwerder@...>

Hi all,

25 messages 2003/06/10

[#73215] Rubyx (provisionally named) linux distro. Made by and run by Ruby — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>

I have developed a little script which creates a simple linux distro

38 messages 2003/06/11

[#73260] Multiple Initialize methods? — "Nick" <nick.robinson@...>

Hi,

21 messages 2003/06/11

[#73283] Ruby advantages over Perl — Marek Janukowicz <childNOSPAM@...17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl>

68 messages 2003/06/11
[#73374] Re: Ruby advantages over Perl — Jason Creighton <androflux@...> 2003/06/12

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:56:02 +0900

[#73356] does each work on a copy? — Rasputin <rasputin@...>

17 messages 2003/06/12

[#73372] Reason for implicit block syntax ? — itsme213@... (you CAN teach an old dog ...)

What is the reason for the implicit block in Ruby invocations?

13 messages 2003/06/12

[#73463] Hispeed String concat — Dominik Werder <dwerder@...>

What is the fastest way to add many small Strings to a big buffer?

17 messages 2003/06/13

[#73503] RaaInstallInRuby petition — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

18 messages 2003/06/13

[#73555] I need a code beautifier or formatter — joaopedrosa@... (Joao Pedrosa)

Hello,

13 messages 2003/06/14

[#73600] Get songtitle from Winamp — calvin8@... (Andi Scharfstein)

Hi,

26 messages 2003/06/15
[#73601] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/06/15

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[#73602] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...> 2003/06/15

It's a Win32API convention meaning "Window Handle".

[#73603] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/06/15

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[#73605] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp — Wesley J Landaker <wjl@...> 2003/06/15

On Sunday 15 June 2003 9:34 am, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#73609] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/06/15

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[#73640] Standardizing Installers — Tom Clarke <tom@...2i.com>

I was thinking about some of the issues raised involving ruby libraries

16 messages 2003/06/16

[#73663] /BEGIN/ .. /END/ file reading — Wild Karl-Heinz <kh.wild@...>

hello

15 messages 2003/06/16
[#73674] Re: /BEGIN/ .. /END/ file reading — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2003/06/16

[#73677] Re: /BEGIN/ .. /END/ file reading — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/06/16

> A range operator with a regexp works like a flip flop (bistable

[#73680] Multiline comments? — "Christoph Tapler" <christoph.tapler@...>

I'm new to Ruby and I'm wondering that there is no possibility to write

38 messages 2003/06/16

[#73781] editor / ide recommentation on Windows — itsme213@... (you CAN teach an old dog ...)

What editor / ide would you recommend for serious Ruby work on

20 messages 2003/06/17

[#73787] Array#push(empty array expanded) => no exception — "Simon Strandgaard" <0bz63fz3m1qt3001@...>

This strange behavier really surprised me..

13 messages 2003/06/17

[#73821] European Ruby Conference — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I don't think I've mentioned this before, but I

15 messages 2003/06/17

[#73924] Re: TCP/IP protocol and Net::HTTP — "J.Hawkesworth" <J.Hawkesworth@...>

Works for me too.

13 messages 2003/06/19
[#73931] Re: TCP/IP protocol and Net::HTTP — Nigel Gilbert <n.gilbert@...> 2003/06/19

I am beginning to wonder if this problem arises from the MacOS X

[#73943] collect info about ruby-api — "Simon Strandgaard" <0bz63fz3m1qt3001@...>

I have long been longing for a good description of ruby C api.

35 messages 2003/06/19

[#74039] WxRuby status? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

14 messages 2003/06/20
[#74507] Re: WxRuby status? — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2003/06/26

Things are progressing great. Kevin Smith has taken the development

[#74070] How to test if a file exists? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

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12 messages 2003/06/21

[#74096] Exasperated with ruby/tk - anybody successfully using it? — "Richard Browne" <richb@...>

General question: Is ruby/tk still being maintained in 1.7/1.8 or is it

10 messages 2003/06/22

[#74104] String#decorate — martindemello@... (Martin DeMello)

When chaining methods, it'd be neat to have something that was passed

17 messages 2003/06/22

[#74156] Marshal bug? — Anders Borch <spam@...>

Hi!

15 messages 2003/06/23
[#74161] Re: Marshal bug? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2003/06/23

Anders Borch wrote:

[#74205] can't find appropriate regexp — "Patrick Zesar" <jonnypichler@...>

spamassassin blocked my previous post :-((((

17 messages 2003/06/23

[#74279] Ruby Developer's Guide - hurt book sale — dennis@... (Dennis Sutch)

Syngress Publishing is having a hurt book sale. Per Syngress

11 messages 2003/06/24

[#74379] protect parents from children — "Simon Strandgaard" <0bz63fz3m1qt3001@...>

I fell into these pitfalls yesterday.. that a child was modifying a parent!

27 messages 2003/06/25

[#74413] Ruby/Java integration through JNI: working implementation — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>

14 messages 2003/06/25
[#74436] Re: Ruby/Java integration through JNI: working implementation — D T <tran55555@...> 2003/06/25

Yet An other JRuby ?? :-)

[#74465] DBD for Oracle9i — Jim Cain <list@...>

Hi all. I was looking for a Ruby interface to 9i that would handle all

25 messages 2003/06/25

[#74478] RPM for 1.8.0 — John Carter <john.carter@...>

I would like to get / build a Mandrake 9.1 RPM for Ruby-1.8.0 Preview 3

17 messages 2003/06/26

[#74506] String#split(' ') and whitespace (perl user's surprise) — mike@... (Mike Stok)

I have to confess that I use a lot of Perl, and some of its idioms are

15 messages 2003/06/26

[#74573] Using & for arrays of objects — "Krishna Dole" <kpdole@...>

Hi,

39 messages 2003/06/27

[#74579] why can't I use $3somevar for global variable in ruby 1.8.0? — Donglai Gong <donglai@...>

Hi, I'm new to Ruby programming and I just upgraded from 1.6.8 to 1.8.0

10 messages 2003/06/27

[#74702] Slides from my talk are up on rubyhacker.com — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I was pleased to attend the European Ruby Conference

25 messages 2003/06/29

[#74706] Help with UnboundMethod#bind error — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...1.vip.lng.yahoo.com>

Hi gurus and nubys,

16 messages 2003/06/29
[#74708] Re: Help with UnboundMethod#bind error — nobu.nokada@... 2003/06/29

Hi,

[#74732] Re: Help with UnboundMethod#bind error — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/06/30

Hi,

[#74919] Re: Help with UnboundMethod#bind error — "Pit Capitain" <pit@...> 2003/07/02

On 30 Jun 2003 at 17:18, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#74717] Re: Message catalogs (I18N) overnight hack... — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

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17 messages 2003/06/29

[#74747] Editor like Textpad on Linux? — Dominik Werder <dwerder@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2003/06/30

[#74768] dynamic object creation — Aryeh Friedman <aryeh@...>

If I have something like this:

15 messages 2003/06/30

[OT] Re: Get songtitle from Winamp

From: Matthew Smillie <M.B.Smillie@...>
Date: 2003-06-15 17:53:33 UTC
List: ruby-talk #73618
On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 06:26  pm, Daniel Carrera wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:20:24AM +0900, Kent R. Spillner wrote:
>> Pretend you're using a statically typed language.  Now re-evaluate hn.
>>
>> Not that I'm defending the notation. =)  But when you're buried
>> knee-deep in legacy C-code, would you rather be able to tell at a 
>> glance
>> that a variable is a pointer to an array of characters, or have to 
>> jump
>> around through the source and then back?
>
> A better solution would be to avoid global variables, to avoid jumping
> around, and create appropriate accessor functions.

You're putting the horse before the cart here - that phrase "legacy C 
code" should strike fear into your heart, because things like "accessor 
functions" were either unheard of, or considered a waste of precious 
instructions.  In environments where you specifically order your 
if/else clauses for efficiency, making an accessor for an otherwise 
global variable is an undreamt-of luxury.  In short, readability was 
not a priority.  In that situation, hn was a costless improvement to 
code readability.

So whither then, OO? The code that resulted from the previous attitude 
was the major factor in promoting OO in industry, not because it's 
inherently better, but because OO allows sort of a continuous spaghetti 
effect of replacing legacy code.  The new code doesn't even have to be 
better (or even really "new" apart from the interface), because its 
deleterious effects are better contained.  This lets unexperienced 
people (of which there are many many more than very experienced people) 
maintain and update software that would otherwise be too complicated.  
I know it's not what's in the OO marketing brochures, it's just what it 
looked like from my perspective.

matt smillie.


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