From: Kero van Gelder Date: 2003-03-21T06:39:31+09:00 Subject: Re: Thoughts about native Ruby widget set > If I understand correctly Gutopia is sort of abstraction layer for > low-level toolkit backends, It seems quite interesting although the > codebase in question seems to be a bit in stagnation(No CVS commits in > the last few months). Both GUtopIa and Rouge aim for higher level abstractions. correct. Both also tend to be low on activity (while the ideas are pretty good). I've also heard the argument Ruby does not need yet-another-toolkit, but needs something to improve upon toolkits and distinguish itself in some way that's Ruby-like. I think that's a valid argument. >>>I am taking first steps in this direction, experimenting with RubyX11, I just >>>wonder if someone else has already started working on a similar idea... >>> >>>url is welcome! >>> > As soon as something will be available, I didn't do any low-level X11 > coding in the past, so currently I have only primitive Window widget:-| btw, Wise uses libX11 (so a C-binding instead of RubyX11), but its aim is similar to what you want. Do you feel cooperation is an option? A toolkit is a daunting task :) Bye, Kero.