From: cailloux@...
Date: 2003-03-13T19:41:54+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby / Eiffel ?

Dear Mr Friedrich,
Dear Mr Mikkel
Thank you for responses.
Merci


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Friedrich Dominicus" <frido@q-software-solutions.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Ruby / Eiffel ?


> <cailloux@lesdamien.com> writes:
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> > Hello evry body
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> > I'm new to Ruby World.
> > Does some body know differences Ruby / Eiffel
> > and the advantages of both.
> The both are fine langauges and combining them would make quite a
> bunch of people happy.
> 
> Now here my 2 cent. 
> Eiffel is nice for building frameworks (so larger applications)
> Eiffel very verbose and it's a  very unpleasant experience to use it n
> areas where Ruby shines. (just an example, write Iteration about a
> container without Agents in Eifel, fetch one HTML page from somewhere)
> Eiffel get compiled and it seems hefty to write an Interpreter for it
> because the need "all-world" knowledge. 
> Eiffel is statically typed (mostly of) 
> Interfactin Eiffel/C is as easy as it is with Ruby/Eiffel
> It DBC concept is extremly helpful and a documentation tool of first
> grade. You do not have to know the source just the short forms (that
> are the contracts make it easy) to undersrand how things work.
> 
> Ruby is "dynamically" typed, and interpreted. There have been attemps
> to integrate DBC into it (do not know how well it really is)
> Ruby blocks have no good counterpart in Eiffel
> Ruby can work with incomplete information
> Ruby can be easy extended and embedded in C (that is what I learned in
> a relativly short time)
> 
> 
> Both languages have a "feel-right" taste, combining Eiffel with Ruby
> seems to be a very attractive alternatie. Eiffel as the "Framework"
> Ruby for appling it conveniently. 
> 
> I just can say I really love them both.
> 
> Regards
> Friedrich
> 
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