From: "Mauricio Fernández" Date: 2003-02-20T07:37:44+09:00 Subject: Re: Rite Status? On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 02:27:39AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote: > Hi, > > In message "Re: Rite Status?" > on 03/02/20, Mauricio Fern�ndez writes: > > |> Well, it is still a goal, but nothing interesting have happened. > | > |According to your presentation "Be minor, be cool" of > |Rubyconf.new(2002) (Nov 2002) you had decided by that time the GC > |algorithm and the VM design; _that_ is interesting, isn't it? :-) > > Depends on your view. They are just vague ideas, no running code. > > |Everybody seems to be moving slowly, though: we haven't had news from > |Parrot or Cardinal for some time now. (Dan Sugalski might have something > |to say about the status of the former :) > > We have our new rival, pypy project. It is even more vaporware than Rite, just 9 days old :) The idea is interesting and seductive; I had been thinking of doing the same in Ruby since I first saw it in Squeak but I do unfortunately lack the skills and experience required :( Below is what I found about pypy. It could be fast as they got the guy who created Psyco to work "on their side"... Now, if only he knew the power of the Ruby way ;) Minimal Python project holger krekel pyth@trillke.net Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:44:19 +0100 * Previous message: SC-Track Roundup 0.5.4 - an issue tracking * system * Next message: ReseekFile and MultiDict * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Minimal Python Discussion, Coding and Sprint -------------------------------------------- We announce a mailinglist dedicated to developing a "Minimal Python" version. Minimal means that we want to have a very small C-core and as much as possible (re)implemented in python itself. This includes (parts of) the VM-Code. Building on the expected gains in flexibility we also hope to use distribution techniques such as PEP302 to ship only a minimal set of modules and load needed modules on demand. As Armin Rigo of PSYCO fame takes part in the effort, we are confident that MinimalPython will eventually run faster than today's CPython. And because Christian Tismer takes part, we are confident that we will find a radical enough approach which also fits Stackless :-) We are very interested in learning about and integrating prior art. And in hearing any doubtful or reinforcing opinions. Expertise is welcomed in all areas. So if you have an interest or even code regarding 'minimal python' please join the list: http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev discussions previously took place on python-de and in private mails. We will repost some core ideas (in english) for further discussion. In a few months we'd like to do a one-week Sprint in Germany focusing on releasing first bits of Minimal Python. best wishes, Armin Rigo, Christian Tismer, Holger Krekel I'll be following pypy to see if we can get ideas from there :) -- _ _ | |__ __ _| |_ ___ _ __ ___ __ _ _ __ | '_ \ / _` | __/ __| '_ ` _ \ / _` | '_ \ | |_) | (_| | |_\__ \ | | | | | (_| | | | | |_.__/ \__,_|\__|___/_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_| Running Debian GNU/Linux Sid (unstable) batsman dot geo at yahoo dot com Never make any mistaeks. -- Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report