From: Bulat Ziganshin <bulatz@...>
Date: 2002-12-17T19:17:34+09:00
Subject: Re: help -- persuade my boss to adopt ruby

Hello Peter,

Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 12:52:08 PM, you wrote:

PH> CPAN is a feature of the community, if befunge had its own CPAN library
PH> then befunge would be be used more in corporate settings. There is 
PH> nothing about Perl that a multitude of languages can't do and can't do 
PH> better (I rather like SNOBOL and ICON).

i don't know ICON but SNOBOL is even less structured than Perl. Perl is definitely
better for it's niche

PH> The phrase "features needed for corporate use" is weasel marketing speak 
PH> and the phrase "value propagation" only confirms it (and what on earth 
PH> is "accoutability" as a language featue). Just examine your list of 
PH> "features needed for corporate use" against the following languages and 
PH> see how many fall short on many criteria..

PH> C/C++ Java COBOL FORTRAN LISP PASCAL BASIC Perl Python Tcl Forth

PH> Then explain why they are used.

currently i feel that large projects need discipline, part of which is strong
(not "strict" :) typing. that is why, i think, ruby can't outperform java
in "bosses" minds

-- 
Best regards,
 Bulat                            mailto:bulatz@integ.ru