From: Bruce Williams <bruce@...>
Date: 2002-12-16T15:57:57+09:00
Subject: Re: help -- persuade my boss to adopt ruby

On Monday 16 December 2002 01:36 am, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
| i feel that Ruby is not strict enough and can't be compiled
| for more or less fast execution. 

I leave this argument to Matz and the core developers.

| when i try to advocate these changes,
| Matz says that Ruby is more or less a toy and he wants to find more
| elegant ways to deal with these issues. beatiful! but on other side,
| this gives us to the fact that Ruby will never steal Java place at
| language racing

I'm not sure there is a real, palpable language race-- people generally use 
programming languages because of either personal feelings/experience, or 
hype, except in cases where special factors come into play (speed for 
graphics,etc).  But, if speed was the key to success, Java wouldn't be a 
market leader.  

| i don'n like the doublethinking i see here - when Ruby apologets says
| "it's not Ruby way" they must realize that in fact they say "wide
| appreciation of language is not Ruby way". Ruby will be a pure
| language which seek for future language directions OR instrument for
| Real Programmers - not both at the same time

This, of course, relies on the supposition that what you suggest is 
technologically sound, and that the "Ruby Way" and success are mutually 
exclusive due to some kind of incompatibility.  I'll leave the cracks and 
crevices in this argument for someone else to pry open-- I'd like to think 
that there's programmers and companies out there with an ounce of vision.

Let's not sacrifice Ruby on the altar of imagined commercial theory just yet.

~ Bruce

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