From: Bulat Ziganshin <bulatz@...>
Date: 2002-12-16T15:36:52+09:00
Subject: Re: help -- persuade my boss to adopt ruby

Hello Hal,

Monday, December 16, 2002, 3:45:43 AM, you wrote:

HEF> My simplistic view: If Perl can get a foot in the door, so can
HEF> Ruby. Perhaps even a leg. But things take time.

of course, the language itself is better than perl in any ways

HEF> As for Java, it didn't get its huge mindshare from technical
HEF> superiority, but from hype; it was marketing-driven rather 
HEF> than technology-driven. (Although I'm not the Java-hater that
HEF> so many are. I much prefer it to C++, for instance.)

java is "c++ better than c++" :) and just in this role java conquered
the world. i say in my original posting about that type of use - ruby
can be used for large-scale, compiled applications, but Matz waits
that corporate America will go to the pure Ruby rather than adding
features which will drive Ruby to corporate world

concrete, i feel that Ruby is not strict enough and can't be compiled
for more or less fast execution. when i try to advocate these changes,
Matz says that Ruby is more or less a toy and he wants to find more
elegant ways to deal with these issues. beatiful! but on other side,
this gives us to the fact that Ruby will never steal Java place at
language racing

i don'n like the doublethinking i see here - when Ruby apologets says
"it's not Ruby way" they must realize that in fact they say "wide
appreciation of language is not Ruby way". Ruby will be a pure
language which seek for future language directions OR instrument for
Real Programmers - not both at the same time

-- 
Best regards,
 Bulat                            mailto:bulatz@integ.ru