From: ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) Date: 2002-12-13T03:06:42+09:00 Subject: [RCR] replace setup.rb/install.rb with builtin module I proposed this idea last night on the tail-end of another thread and on the RubyGarden wiki at QuickGuideToPackagingDiscussion as well as on the raa-install list, but I thought it might make a good RCR: Anyone else find the current intall.rb/setup.rb script a bit awkward? When I create a package I've got to remember where I left install.rb and copy it over into my package directory. Then I've got to tar everything up and I've got a package... Like I said, seems a little awkward. What if an InstallPkg module that had all of the functionality of the install.rb/setup.rb scripts was included with Ruby. Then package creators could create very simple install.rb scripts that would look like: #install.rb require 'install_pkg' include InstallPkg depends_on_hash= {"rexml"=>'0.5.0',"rubyfoo"=>'2.3.1','jabber4r'=>'1.2.1 } install_package(packageName, depends_on_hash, ...other arguments?...) Perhaps these install.rb scripts could even be automatically generated by running some built-in package-gen script which would also create the tar.gz package itself? This would offer the following advantages: 1) no more copying install.rb over into your package dir. 2) it encourages the package creator to list dependencies and versions (though it might also be possible to figure these out automatically) 3) the install.rb takes care of installing dependencies (via raa-install) which keeps raa-install simple and it's purpose clear (separation of responsibilities). 4) It seems better from a code reuse standpoint. I see that a lot of people write their own install.rb scripts or they cut and paste from the install.rb on the RAA - this seems very inefficient. A standard Install API would help a lot and people wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel all the time. Of course, we would need to get this InstallPkg module into the standard Ruby distro for maximum impact. And I guess while we're at it we should have raa-install included in the standard distribution as well. By proposing this as an RCR I am implying that package creation and installation methods should be an integral part of Ruby, not a peripheral issue. Phil -- "Or perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" Amy Weiss (accusing theregister.co.uk of engaging in 'tabloid journalism') Senior VP, Communications Recording Industry Association of America