From: Rich Kilmer <rich@...>
Date: 2002-12-12T14:32:55+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] jabber4r 0.3.0 (doesn't work with raa-install)

And there are some of us ruby folk who develop on Windows and not Linux
(so we can be closer to our users ;-) and the common compression is .zip
format.  Now I happen to _have_ the ability to tar and gzip the file,
but don't you think you should support something on standard unix
(tar.gz) and standard win32 (zip)?

If it makes everyone happy I will tar.gz jabber4r.

-rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: why the lucky stiff [mailto:ruby-talk@whytheluckystiff.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:08 AM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: [ANN] jabber4r 0.3.0 (doesn't work with raa-install)
> 
> 
> Tom Clarke (tom@u2i.com) wrote:
> > 
> > It does and it doesn't. It requires either zlib or gnu tar. As the 
> > windows distribution comes with zlib, and most modern unixy 
> platforms 
> > will have gnu tar it covers most people.
> > 
> > I think my vote is to standardize on tar.gz. Any other opinions?
> > 
> 
> Raa-install is in kind of in a funny place that needs 
> defining, don't you think?  I mean its mission is to use the 
> existing RAA resources to perform an installation.  By that 
> definition, raa-install is at the mercy of the data.  To 
> fully achieve its task, it needs to workaround every 
> idiosyncracy of the data.  Fixing bad URLs, searching FTP 
> directories.  If an author checks in a RAR file, then 
> Raa-install must look at supporting RAR?
> 
> I'd truly like to see authors use the fields in RAA to 
> contain data which is useful to a program such as 
> Raa-install.  The notes section can be used for excess data.  
> If we can decide to place direct links to a tar.gz in the 
> download field, then links to other compressed formats can be 
> contained in the notes field.  Personally, tarballs are the 
> natural choice simply because they're in the majority and 
> raa-install already supports gzip and tar.
> 
> So if we can take some steps as a community to provide RAA 
> with more specific and useful data, then a bit of software 
> like Raa-install won't be some incredible wizardry.  I'm 
> saying we standardize on [1] a compression format, [2] our 
> install.rb/setup.rb process, [3] a technique for identifying 
> package dependancies.  Once decided, this information must 
> become pervasive, such that popular Ruby site have the 
> information readily accessible.
> 
> Anyways, I'm way off-topic now, but still sort of on.. :)  My 
> vote is [1] tar.gz, [2] Minero Aoki's install.rb/setup.rb, 
> [3] integration of install.rb and RAAInstall to provide 
> installation of dependancies.
> 
> _why
> 
> 
>